What rights do I have?

[KrazyHorse]

Greed is good. Allowing greed to express itself through rents is bad.

[Aeson]

Greed may be necessary for some to be productive. That doesn't mean greed is good. Rather it means that everything that actually is good is missing in those individuals.

[KrazyHorse]

Thanks, but given the fact that you sucked hundreds of thousands of dollars in free education and child support benefits out of the public purse as a child and then chose to take up a career subsistence farming, I'll take the greedy individual who pays his debt to society back through taxes any day of the week.

[Aeson]

Strawman. But thanks for conceeding my point.

In any case, I wasn't talking about myself, as I've been pretty greedy with my time over the course of my life. (Not so much the last couple years. But still enough to not qualify.)

I don't see how I am to blame for the cost of my public education either. I gladly would have forgone it altogether if it was legal for me to choose to do so.

As for the farm, I really couldn't eat anywhere near that much eggplant, onions, okra, and pepper. Even though Net's family is large, they wouldn't make much of a dent in it either. Perhaps you're confused as what subsistence farming is?

[KrazyHorse]

That's great. Avoid responsibility just like you've done with everything else in your life

[Aeson]

I accept responsibility for my actions. I don't take responsibility for things others choose, even if it's on my behalf. (I may or may not be grateful for it, depending on what it is.) It's not that difficult a concept, really. Even you may figure it out someday

[C0ckney]

Perhaps you aren't aware of the appalling working conditions that led to the inevitable rise of the labour movement. It wasn't the near-starving, exploited workers of the 19th century that were greedy. Unions may well have outlived their purpose today, but for those of us whose ancestors toiled in the factories and organised themselves to fight for decent living-standards, they served a valuable and humane role in history.

people ought to learn about the conditions the working man lived in during the 19th and early 20th centuries. unions played a role in directly improving the situation for the working man, but even more importantly they helped to create the political environment in which measures could be introduced to help the working classes. today if you look at countries which have strong unions, and strong social democratic political parties, you see a much smaller gap between rich and poor and lower poverty rates. it's not a coincidence.

[giblets]

Greed is good. Allowing greed to express itself through rents is bad.

No, greed is not a good thing. Society can make greedy people act in ways that are socially beneficial, but I don't think a society is going to achieve greater happiness by upholding greed as a virtue.

[Carreidas]

people ought to learn about the conditions the working man lived in during the 19th and early 20th centuries. unions played a role in directly improving the situation for the working man, but even more importantly they helped to create the political environment in which measures could be introduced to help the working classes. today if you look at countries which have strong unions, and strong social democratic political parties, you see a much smaller gap between rich and poor and lower poverty rates. it's not a coincidence.

[KrazyHorse]

No, greed is not a good thing. Society can make greedy people act in ways that are socially beneficial, but I don't think a society is going to achieve greater happiness by upholding greed as a virtue.

What pap. Greed is good precisely because we've set up the rules to make it good. The greedier somebody is, in general, the more value he provides to other people. A society without greed would collapse.

[giblets]

What pap. Greed is good precisely because we've set up the rules to make it good. The greedier somebody is, in general, the more value he provides to other people. A society without greed would collapse.

No you idiot, we set up rules to accommodate greed. The more greedy someone is, in general, the more stuff they need to be satisfied and the more willing they are to run over other people to get it.

[Fake Boris]

As partial proof of (2) it should be noted that the US, where workers are supposedly exploited by their employers has always had a significantly higher fraction of national income accruing to labor than the paradise that is Euroland.

- Could that be related to employment rates rather than union membership?
- Could your figure have been skewed by including execs' "labor"?

[MRT144]

Greed is good. Allowing greed to express itself through rents is bad.

Greed isn't good. I can have the same profit seeking motives without being greedy. What definition of greed are you using?

[Aeson]

It's more likely a disagreement about what is "good" (more in regards to methods than ends) than what is "greed".

[Pax]

Good Job Al,
You need to talk the detective or prosecutor ASAP. This may be a case of "no good deed goes unpunished." After you find out what the legal system is willing to do to help your situation then go to the marines and discuss your options.

HC,
I see here that you really don't like unions. Do you actually have a real argument against unions?