I've had enough

[Ming]

I've never played fantasy baseball before. I am not a baseball fan, outside of Roy Halladay. You knew this, I knew this, Berz knew this.

Maybe Berz knew this... But I didn't... and frankly, it doesn't change anything.

You asked me to join for the benefit of your league so you could play. I said no, and then caved because frankly, you're a good bunch. I did not approach you. It was the other way around. Did you ask me for my benefit or for yours? Yours. Not mine.

I never asked you to join the league... Frankly, I had no interest in having you in a FFZ league because of your track record for creating drama in Poly leagues.

Then you act all pissy when I make a decision that is best for me and quit straight away.

Yeah... you made the decision to quit after the draft started and you didn't get a favorite player... If everybody acted like that, we wouldn't have any fantasy leagues.

I realize I was in the wrong for what I did, I'm not arguing otherwise.

Yet you are still saying you quit for the rights reasons... And no matter what you say, THE FACT IS that you only decided to quit AFTER you didn't get your favorite players... Very Childish.

Now, you being all butthurt because someone actually said no? Well, time to move on. That was in March. It's August now, Ming.

No... I'm laughing at you because you acted like a child by quitting when you didn't get your way. You can attempt to put whatever top spin on it you like, but the actual facts are simple.

Was the league destroyed? No. Did you find a good manger, Yes. Did you have a great time? Yes.

Actually, for me personally, the league was better the minute you left. I never asked you to join in the first place. But again, none of this changes the facts or justifies your childish behavior... You quit when you didn't get your way.

Site rules say you can't do this. Same with PMs here. The owner does not want cross site battles, he wasnt Poly stuff to stay here and FFZ stuff to stay there. You can respect his wishes or you can disrespect them. Got nothing to do with me.

And you act like a jerk... which is against site rules... Your point?

[Cort Haus]

If acting like a jerk was against site rules there'd be hardly anyone left.

[Aeson]

We'd still need someone to enforce teh rules first. Since the staff would all be the first out the door...

[Ming]

If Ben would take the time to actually read the site rules...

6. Do not plot, plan or discuss anything that would involve harm to any individual/organization/corporation/website, even if the discussion does not technically break any laws. Apolyton strives to maintain good relations with other civilization sites. We are aware that some users are members of multiple sites but we suggest that if you have any issues with those other sites you take them up with the relevant site rather than posting about them here.

My issue isn't with FFZ... it's with how BK acted like a baby No rule breaking here, simply the truth.

5. Do not violate the privacy of any member of Apolyton. This includes disclosing private communications or any personal or private information about an individual.

Neither Rah or I broke this rule... yet BK did.

So who is the one not showing respect to the site owners here... obviously, it's ONLY BK that is doing that

[Ben Kenobi]

Maybe Berz knew this... But I didn't... and frankly, it doesn't change anything.

Ming, there's a time to *stop* digging. You don't have all the facts, you never asked, just assumed.

I never asked you to join the league... Frankly, I had no interest in having you in a FFZ league because of your track record for creating drama in Poly leagues.

Berz did. I didn't approach the league.

Yeah... you made the decision to quit after the draft started and you didn't get a favorite player... If everybody acted like that, we wouldn't have any fantasy leagues.

Which is why I said no 3 times. No, Ming. I wasn't interested in playing so I quit. You found another manager who did great. Which is wonderful. If you had done that prior to asking me, quite a bit of time on your part and mine would have been saved. Like I said I am not a baseball fan.

Yet you are still saying you quit for the rights reasons

Yeah I did. The league got a manager who was involved, interested and loved the game. The league, in my opinion was far better off without than with me. You yourself just argued that you were happier without me in the league, so my point stands.

the actual facts are simple.

What facts are you privy to? Berz and my conversations? Besides that one post, what do you know ming? You aren't privy to the facts, so you can't rely on what you do know to make assumptions about what you don't know.

Actually, for me personally, the league was better the minute you left.

Thank you. I rest my case. Why are we arguing about something that we agree upon? The league was better without me, and me quitting meant that you could have a league without me. Obviously I made the right decision, for me, for you and for the league as a whole.

[Ben Kenobi]

So who is the one not showing respect to the site owners here

Uh, I was referring you posting FFZ stuff here, which is against what FFZ wants. I never said you violated site rules here.

[Ming]

Ming, there's a time to *stop* digging. You don't have all the facts, you never asked, just assumed.

You can "make up" all the facts you want. The facts are simple... you quit after making a commitment, simply because you couldn't get the player you want. The rest is just poor excuses on your part. I assume nothing, just point out the childish way you reacted and posted. The one post you made later about just picking a totally bad thing shows how childish you were being.

Berz did. I didn't approach the league.
Which is why I said no 3 times. No, Ming. I wasn't interested in playing so I quit.

Well I didn't... and you AGREED, no matter how many times you said no... and only quit after you didn't get your player.

You found another manager who did great. Which is wonderful. If you had done that prior to asking me, quite a bit of time on your part and mine would have been saved. Like I said I am not a baseball fan.

But you still agreed in the first place, and quit because you didn't get your way.

Yeah I did. The league got a manager who was involved, interested and loved the game. The league, in my opinion was far better off without than with me. You yourself just argued that you were happier without me in the league, so my point stands.

But you couldn't know we would get a manager to take over your team after the fact... you were screwing everybody by quitting. The fact that we found somebody doesn't change the fact you acted like a child, and screwed everybody.

What facts are you privy to? Berz and my conversations? Besides that one post, what do you know ming? You aren't privy to the facts, so you can't rely on what you do know to make assumptions about what you don't know.

I know what you posted...

[Berzerker]

he's gotchya there, yer on your own now, Ben

[Ben Kenobi]

You can "make up" all the facts you want. The facts are simple... you quit after making a commitment, simply because you couldn't get the player you want.

Not true at all. Berz already laid it out for you that there were other things going on.

But you couldn't know we would get a manager to take over your team after the fact...

Oh pish tosh. You have me believe that malarky? I had already said no 3 times. Surely you guys had to have a backup plan. What if Ben said no again? That must have crossed your mind.

you were screwing everybody by quitting.

So what would you have done if I had said no for the fourth time. Surely I wasn't the only option you guys had. Surprise, surprise, I wasn't.

Evidence was that you guys found another dude pretty easily. League did great, life goes on.

Now question for you, had I stayed on and let you guys BAPAY me, and been an absentee owner, you guys wouldn't have found another new guy.

[Berzerker]

its the way you went about it, you could have just told people life was intervening and we'd understand

thats all

folks

b-d-b-d-b-d

[Dinner]

No one posts at FFZ any more. It's a ghost town.

[Berzerker]

can you hear the wind whistling thru Polytown yet?

FFZ is staying alive with sports, kinda like here

[Ben Kenobi]

its the way you went about it, you could have just told people life was intervening and we'd understand

In the heat of the moment, things don't always work out that way.

[Dinner]

can you hear the wind whistling thru Polytown yet?

FFZ is staying alive with sports, kinda like here

Poly gets around 100 posters a day with many making multiple posts per visit. FFZ is luckily to get 10 posts per day, period. It's a sad pathetic place. Much like it's owner.

[Ming]

Not true at all. Berz already laid it out for you that there were other things going on.

Based only on your word... which you have proven to not be worth much... Again, you never mentioned anything but a bad day, and your childish actions.
Those are the facts.

Oh pish tosh. You have me believe that malarky? I had already said no 3 times. Surely you guys had to have a backup plan. What if Ben said no again? That must have crossed your mind.
So what would you have done if I had said no for the fourth time. Surely I wasn't the only option you guys had. Surprise, surprise, I wasn't.

The back up plan was simple, somebody would have to back out and not play so that we would have an even number.
But none of that changes the fact that you acted like a total baby. Your actions speak louder than any of your lies.

Evidence was that you guys found another dude pretty easily. League did great, life goes on.

Yep... life goes on and you still acted like a child. The fact that the league went on doesn't change how you acted.
You are responsible for your actions, and they speak for themselves.

Just more proof of your total lack of character. It seems to pile up with every post and action you make.