Quebec bans religious teaching in publicly subsidized daycares

[Kidlicious]

Holy crap. You don't have a problem with people feeling humiliated because they don't believe in everyone else's god?

Humility is a good thing, mkay. But then they have the choice to feel proud and just believe what everyone else believes.

[Kidlicious]

I don't think non-religious parents put their children in religious schools because of bigotry.

Bigotry? It's a simple desire to have their children develop morals.

[N35t0r]

Humility is a good thing, mkay.

Humility != Humiliation

But then they have the choice to feel proud and just believe what everyone else believes.

WTF is this supposed to mean? Just do what the majority does because its easier?

[giblets]

Bigotry? It's a simple desire to have their children develop morals.

Why would putting your kid in a religious school help them develop morals? I guess getting molested by a priest builds character.

[Kidlicious]

Humility != Humiliation

I think you are assuming that the person who is excluded lost dignity. That's not always the case and I would hope not ever the case. I person who chooses to take a stand for what they believe has more dignity that one who doesn't.

WTF is this supposed to mean? Just do what the majority does because its easier?

No. Most people do whatever the majority does because they feel a sense of pride, like patriotism.

[Kidlicious]

Why would putting your kid in a religious school help them develop morals? I guess getting molested by a priest builds character.

I see that you are starting off in the familiar way.

[giblets]

I see that you are starting off in the familiar way.

I think the whole "you can't be moral without being religious" deal is pretty familiar.

[N35t0r]

I think you are assuming that the person who is excluded lost dignity. That's not always the case and I would hope not ever the case. I person who chooses to take a stand for what they believe has more dignity that one who doesn't.

Like I said, good luck to your kids then.

Being excluded at school can be quite harsh...

No. Most people do whatever the majority does because they feel a sense of pride, like patriotism.

Again, so you say that we should do what the majority does? It's OK to go against one's beliefs to feel a warm fuzzy feeling inside? Or only when it's not you who has to?

[Kidlicious]

I think the whole "you can't be moral without being religious" deal is pretty familiar.

I said atheists aren't moral, as they do not believe in morality.

[Kidlicious]

Like I said, good luck to your kids then.

Being excluded at school can be quite harsh...

Sounds like a personal fear. Not everyone is terrified of being excluded.

Again, so you say that we should do what the majority does? It's OK to go against one's beliefs to feel a warm fuzzy feeling inside? Or only when it's not you who has to?

I count this as dribble.

[N35t0r]

So you call us amoral out of your ass and want us to pretend it's a valid argument?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Oy vei.

[Kidlicious]

So you call us amoral out of your ass and want us to pretend it's a valid argument?

I think it's quite clear that you do not believe in morality.

[Kidlicious]

On the other hand, please do explain how morals exist.

[N35t0r]

Sounds like a personal fear. Not everyone is terrified of being excluded.

No. Most kids, while not terrified, still have a pretty rough time. Adding reasons for kids to feel alienated so that others can have a nice 'sense of pride' (which I can't bet doesn't even happen in most of them) is extremely counterproductive. Why not have cross burnings as well, while we're at it? It gives white kids a good chance to feel proud of their heritage. Black kids can join in and feel warm and fuzzy inside or wait it out and become more dignified