It's time for another Ask Asher thread

[Asher]

Not when they jail people for dissent.

Who was jailed for dissent?

Because I've stayed on the other side of the line. Could very easily have been jailed just for crossing the street.

If I had crossed the street and picketed on the other side of the road, I would have been arrested. In a 'free' country. For simply expressing my opinion that abortion is wrong.

What in the holy child rapist jesus ****ing christ cluster**** are you talking about?

[Ben Kenobi]

Who was jailed for dissent?

Currently, Mary Wagner and Lisa Gibbons are both in jail.

What in the holy child rapist jesus ****ing christ cluster**** are you talking about?

It's called bubble zones, Asher.

[giblets]

Neither of which have anything to do with 'Canada'.

It was a beautiful place before Canada was formed. It will be a beautiful place long after 'Canada' is gone.

I do love where I am from. But I don't love Canada for what she has become. Canada didn't make the lakes, the mountains the trees. Loving the country for the land she occupies is like loving a woman for the clothes she wears, and not her heart. She has lost her way.

When did you decide this? Oh that's right, when you became a fascist Christian and decided your views should be imposed. If this was about British heritage you'd go to Britain or Australia or something. How about you be straightforward and say up front that you want to live in red state America so you can be with other fascist Christians. (disclaimer: I am not calling all Christians fascist)

[Asher]

Who?

[ColdWizard]

Bored at work.

It's like a punching bag.

But the punching bag is full of ****...

[Asher]

Currently, Mary Wagner.



It's called bubble zones, Asher.

I googled this. The ***** was trespassing -- entered private property (an abortion clinic) and harassed traumatized young mothers getting an abortion.

The first time she was simply escorted out of the facility and warned. Then when she did it again she was arrested and charged with trespassing.

Trespassing laws also exist in the USA, last I checked.

[Al B. Sure!]

Mary Wagner from the Vancouver, British Columbia area has spent the past four years discerning her vocation in a Catholic convent in France, which she says she felt called to leave in order to share Jesus' love with those involved with abortion – a calling that has most recently landed her in a Toronto prison.

On Monday, March 29, during Holy Week, Mary entered the "Woman's Care" abortion facility where she said she was able to "speak to a few grieving Dads, whose partners had already gone in for their abortions, and let them know about project Rachael, a support system for post abortion parents."

She also had opportunity to talk to some of the waiting mothers, but she said they seemed already committed in their hearts to the deed they had undertaken.

"The darkness there was palpable," Mary observed.

After 45 minutes Mary said the police arrived and escorted her away from the facility.

On Tuesday, March 30, Mary again went to witness to life, this time to the "Choice in Health" abortion center, where she said she was able to talk directly to the owner of the abortuary and to counsel women, abortion workers, and police for nearly 45 minutes before she was carried away by officers.

Mary said that her arrest was not difficult, and that the officers allowed a priest visiting a local parish, Father O'Hara from Wisconsin, to give her a special blessing before she was taken away.

She was subsequently put into a police car and taken to the 11th Division Toronto Police Station where she was locked in a cell. She was not released because she wouldn't agree to the conditions of her release that stipulated staying away from abortion clinics.

On Wednesday, March 31, Mary had a bond hearing to set a trial date. As of April 1, her first court date will be April 15 at 9am.

She is now detained as a pro-life prisoner of conscience at the Vanier Women's Detention Center. This is the same location where Canadian pro-life heroine Linda Gibbons is being held on similar charges.

Readers are encouraged to write letters of support to Mary Wagner, as well as continuing to write to Linda Gibbons.

can't find anything unbiased though.

[Asher]

I wonder what would happen if I were to enter a US cathedral and helpfully told all of the children about catholic sex crimes? Repeatedly, even after being escorted away and warned?

[giblets]

Trespassing laws also exist in the USA, last I checked.

True, but Ben would have a better chance of finding someone who would agree with his bull****.

[Ben Kenobi]

When did you decide this?

Probably when I was 16. I live in British Columbia and in northern British Columbia. What I called, doubly isolated. This is why I liked Preston Manning, because there was a man who understood what I felt and what I believed. Representation.

Oh that's right, when you became a fascist Christian and decided your views should be imposed.

Everyone wants their views imposed on other people. Christians say, do not murder, do not steal, do not lie, or be punished for it. Hence why we have laws barring the government from doing these things.

If you were honest, you'd believe that we should impose certain values on other people too. So quit hiding behind the smokescreen.

If this was about British heritage you'd go to Britain or Australia or something.

An option I've considered.

I like the US. I like what she stands for, and the freedom that she defends. I like the first amendment. So, while the tradeoff is not living under the Queen's domain, the benefit is in the freedom to express myself which we do not possess here.

How about you be straightforward and say up front that you want to live in red state America so you can be with other fascist Christians. (disclaimer: I am not calling all Christians fascist)

I live in 'red state' Canada. In one of the bluest of blue areas, blue representing Toryism. Why would I not find comfort in Texas with other conservatives? They are the salt of the earth. I've been blessed with my TX friends.

[Ben Kenobi]

I googled this. The ***** was trespassing -- entered private property (an abortion clinic) and harassed traumatized young mothers getting an abortion.

It's publicly owned.

The first time she was simply escorted out of the facility and warned. Then when she did it again she was arrested and charged with trespassing.

Trespassing laws also exist in the USA, last I checked.

Don't see why it's trespassing, when the government owns the facility. Government funded and subsidised. Her tax dollars as well as the rest of ours are going to pay for abortions performed there, so she should have the right to observe.

[giblets]

I wonder what would happen if I were to enter a US cathedral and helpfully told all of the children about catholic sex crimes? Repeatedly, even after being escorted away and warned?

As long as you tell them you consider trespassing laws immoral and therefore the law doesn't apply to you, they have no right to call the police.

[Asher]

Probably when I was 16. I live in British Columbia and in northern British Columbia. What I called, doubly isolated. This is why I liked Preston Manning, because there was a man who understood what I felt and what I believed. Representation.

I've repeatedly met Preston Manning. Are you jealous?

He was a bit of an arrogant bastard.

Everyone wants their views imposed on other people.

I don't. You can continue to believe in the nonsense you want. Just don't impose your view on my life.

[Asher]

It's publicly owned.

Uh. All signs are it's not, Ben.

Where's your proof?

Its services are funded by the province, but it is owned by a not-for-profit (private) organization.

[Ben Kenobi]

I wonder what would happen if I were to enter a US cathedral and helpfully told all of the children about catholic sex crimes? Repeatedly, even after being escorted away and warned?

Sort of like the Rainbow sashes who did just that and tried to steal the host?

None of whom were arrested?