Apologies to BK. You were right about gay marriages.

[giblets]

I think >30,000 posts would be more fair.

[Riesstiu IV]

I think >30,000 posts would be more fair.

I would make that bet.

[Ben Kenobi]

Which one, the one about an illogical divine law that would be relevant to atheists?

Sigh, you asked for a law that I followed myself that would be illogical to atheists. I answered, no sex before marriage.

I'm assuming you don't mean the part where I asked you to point out where Jesus talked about homosexuality, seeing as how you made no attempt to do so.

He created them male and female. Matthew 19:25. I should probably put that on my sig since I end up having it quoted so often.

You explaining why the Bible is correct while the Odyssey and every other piece of ancient literature is incorrect was also a fruitless line of questioning, as other posters are learning.

I did not say that. All I said is that the bible is more reliable than all the others.

[Ben Kenobi]

So anybody in the Bible who rises from the dead must also be God?

Anyone named, "Jesus of Nazereth". Next.

[Ben Kenobi]

Failing that, provide the method that we can prove your claims for ourselves.

My claim is simple.

1. The bible is more reliable than any other ancient source we have.

2. The bible claims that Jesus Christ rose from the dead.

Therefore, we should be more certain that Jesus Christ rose from the dead than any other historical event in ancient times.

[Thoth]

In other words, your bible claims to be true, therefore whatever your bible claims is true?

[David Floyd]

I'm not asking for that.

I'm asking for two things.

1, was there a person called Jesus of Nazareth?
2, did this Jesus of Nazareth die and return from the dead?

No, wrong, you ARE asking for that. It's an unfair comparison. Zeus is a supernatural character by definition. Jesus, if he rose from the dead, is also by definition supernatural. The existence of a historical Troy does not imply a supernatural Zeus. The existence of Jesus of Nazareth does not imply a supernatural Jesus of Nazareth.

The point is, while there MAY be historical evidence pointing to the existence of Jesus of Nazareth, there is NOT evidence pointing to his supernaturality. That is, unless you are willing to accept the argument that the existence of Hercules also implies he was the son of a god.

Face it - myths are very, very often based on facts.

[BlackCat]

Sigh, you asked for a law that I followed myself that would be illogical to atheists. I answered, no sex before marriage.

Why do you think that sex before marriage is ilogical for atheists ?

[fetustoast]

In other words, your bible claims to be true, therefore whatever your bible claims is true?

Zealots are like all other bigots - they simply cannot understand why everyone else disagrees, and wonder why others find their following of their dogma blindly to be so disturbing.

I wonder what particular version and/or revision of the bible is "da troof".

[loinburger]

Sigh, you asked for a law that I followed myself that would be illogical to atheists. I answered, no sex before marriage.

I asked for one that would be relevant to atheists. Your sexual hangups are not relevant to anybody.

He created them male and female. Matthew 19:25. I should probably put that on my sig since I end up having it quoted so often.

You're serious, aren't you. Oy.

[David Floyd]

1. The bible is more reliable than any other ancient source we have.

2. The bible claims that Jesus Christ rose from the dead.

Therefore, we should be more certain that Jesus Christ rose from the dead than any other historical event in ancient times.

By the same logic:

The Odyssey talks about the Trojan War and the City of Troy.

The city of Troy was discovered in the same location described in the Odyssey.

Everything in the Odyssey is true.

Come on man

[BlackCat]

My claim is simple.

1. The bible is more reliable than any other ancient source we have.

2. The bible claims that Jesus Christ rose from the dead.

Therefore, we should be more certain that Jesus Christ rose from the dead than any other historical event in ancient times.

The bible was written several hundred years after his death and the content was descided by people with a political goal.

[loinburger]

Anyone named, "Jesus of Nazereth". Next.

Why would Jesus's rising from the dead be relevant to his supposed divinity if other people rose from the dead without being divine?

[giblets]

He created them male and female. Matthew 19:25. I should probably put that on my sig since I end up having it quoted so often.

25When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, "Who then can be saved?"

26Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."

27Peter answered him, "We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?"

28Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother[f] or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life. 30But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...19&version=NIV

WTF are you talking about? You said something that probably comes from Genesis, attributed it to Matthew, in response to a question about when Jesus talked about teh buttsex, and it doesn't even mention sexual intercourse.

[Ben Kenobi]

In other words, your bible claims to be true, therefore whatever your bible claims is true?

Sigh.

We can be more sure that the biblical claims are correct than we can about anything else from that time period.