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  • #61
    That's the part I don't know about. Whether He's sitting there hoping you make the right choices at each fork of the road, or lamenting the fact that He knows you'll make the wrong one.
    He gave us a mind. He doesn't "rule" us. That's obvious.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by notyoueither View Post
      You do attack other posters.
      I second that. Loin does go out of his way to attack other posters on here.

      Hell, I do that sometimes.
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      • #63
        You attack the Hell out of me. So does Loin. Sometimes? SOMETIMES?!?
        Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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        • #64
          Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
          That's the part I don't know about. Whether He's sitting there hoping you make the right choices at each fork of the road, or lamenting the fact that He knows you'll make the wrong one.
          He gave us a mind. He doesn't "rule" us. That's obvious.

          He couldn't know what choices you will make, or the whole house of cards comes down. You are no more than a billiard ball, your course set in motion and your final pocket determined before anyone was born.
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          • #65
            I tend to agree. That's why I added that He gave us a mind. I think He sits there and hopes. It must be terribly stressful, since I consider God to be love.
            Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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            He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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            • #66
              Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
              You attack the Hell out of me. So does Loin. Sometimes? SOMETIMES?!?
              But, I still like you.
              A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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              • #67
                You have a strange way of showing it.
                Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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                He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by notyoueither View Post
                  You do attack other posters.
                  Yes? Your point being? If you're attempting to conflate every conceivable type of online rudeness then I'm not buying it.
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                  • #69
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
                      And I believe it is accepted by a good deal of Eastern Orthodox thinkers as well (in their mind, Hell corresponds to Catholic notions of Purgatory).
                      Well, I know universal salvation is accepted as possible but not known by Met. Kallistos Ware. Not sure about the others. To be honest, we don't talk about Hell all that much.
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                      • #71
                        Romans actually developed hell. The other early churches were otherwise.

                        Universalism was a fairly commonly held view among theologians in Early Christianity: In the first five or six centuries of Christianity, there were six known theological schools, of which four (Alexandria, Antioch, Caesarea, and Edessa or Nisibis) were Universalist, one (Ephesus) accepted conditional immortality, and one (Carthage or Rome) taught the endless punishment of the lost.

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                        • #72
                          I don't think He knows what choices will be made in advance.
                          I think he can see all possibilities and know some of them in advance, ie you will deny me three times! Then you have the prophecies fulfilled.
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by notyoueither View Post
                            I don't think He knows what choices will be made in advance.

                            That sort of robs the 'own image' part of creation.
                            So he's not omniscient then?
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