Is the Catholic church a force for good in the world?

[Asher]

On topic. We're going to stay on topic. No personal attacks.

Give it up. Ben knows it's coming, it's impossible to discuss Ben without discussing his obvious demons. It's the source of all of his opinions.

[loinburger]

It's only sexist if you consider that to be a bad thing. I don't, I just don't want that in my priest.

That is an argument for you to go to a church with a male priest, not an argument for The Church as an international institution to bar female priests.

[Felch]

I know. I kind of feel bad about it. But hey, that's what you get for derailing a thread.

The thread bashes on my religion. I felt obligated, as a good Catholic, to judo flip it into a discussion of oral sex.

[rah]

It's only sexist if you consider that to be a bad thing. I don't, I just don't want that in my priest.

So because you're uncomfortable with a little touchy feelie, that disqualifies any woman from ever being a priest. DO YOU EVEN READ BACK THE SEXIST STUFF YOU TYPE. Obviously not.

[Asher]

The thread bashes on my religion. I felt obligated, as a good Catholic, to judo flip it into a discussion of oral sex.

I'd never have guessed you to be Catholic based on your last name.

[Ben Kenobi]

If you accept that men and women are fundamentally different you would naturally expect to see sex segregation.

The policy of the Catholic church is contrary to the current zeitgeist, but I believe it's right here. Offering defined and complementary roles for men and women to serve is in the long run beneficial, as you are making the most of the talents of both men and women.

The key is to pull together in the same direction, not to have men and women fighting against each other all the time.

[Ben Kenobi]

So because you're uncomfortable with a little touchy feelie, that disqualifies any woman from ever being a priest.

Lets start blowing off the smokescreens here.

Do you believe that men and women should have distinct roles?

[Felch]

I'd never have guessed you to be Catholic based on your last name.

It's fooled many people over the years.

[loinburger]

Do you believe that men and women should have distinct roles?

I think we've already established that you're the only openly sexist person in this discussion, i.e. it's a safe bet that everybody's answer is going to be a resounding "no." (This is of course leaving aside obvious biological roles, e.g. women should not be ejaculating semen and men should not be giving birth.)

Perhaps it would help if you explained what roles you believe women are competent enough to have and/or what roles they can have without you being offended/uncomfortable.

[rah]

as you are making the most of the talents of both men and women.

By defining their talents by gender IT"S SEXIST.

I've had priests for teachers that were better than some nuns and I've had some nuns that were better teachers than some priests. So who should teach?

I've had female confessors that were better that some priests. So who should administer the sacrament.

It's the individual with the talent not the gender

[Felch]

I disagree with Rah. Bigotry makes life easier. For example, if I want a nice home cooked meal, I find a woman. If I need my taxes done, I find a jew. If I lock my keys in my car and don't feel like calling AAA, I find a negro.

Stereotypes simplify life.

[rah]

Lets start blowing off the smokescreens here.

Do you believe that men and women should have distinct roles?

NO. Unless of course it concerns procreation where that one is kind of predetermined. But for me that's about the only one. I'm not a sexist like you so I can see everyone's potential.

Name one thing that every man can do better than every women every time. (that doesn't involve procreation)

[Asher]

NO. Unless of course it concerns procreation where that one is kind of predetermined. But for me that's about the only one. I'm not a sexist like you so I can see everyone's potential.

Name one thing that every man can do better than every women every time. (that doesn't involve procreation)

Give oral sex
Drive
Being holy and ****

[rah]

Every man, every woman, every time.

Try again, But I did like the oral sex one.

[rah]

But you're right, let's get more exact.

BEN name one thing that you do better than any woman on the planet.