[serious] Off Topic Moderation Input - Part 2

[Asher]

There are many people that would disagree that he is "enjoyed" by people... There were many calls to just ban him.

As far as you "claiming" that Ben is mentally disturbed, he very well could be... or he could just be another Troll... just like you.

In either case he's not enjoyable to anyone.

He's a pest without any redeeming qualities to anyone.

[Ming]

Wiglaf is acting, there's a difference. He does it for the enjoyment of others. Ben does it because he's mentally disturbed.

There are many people that would disagree that he is "enjoyed" by people... There were many calls to just ban him.

As far as you "claiming" that Ben is mentally disturbed, he very well could be... or he could just be another Troll... just like you.

[MikeH]

MikeH - So what about demonstrable lies? You don't see that as a problem?

You mean lies that are so obvious everyone knows they are lies?

Depends on the lie/context etc.

[Asher]

Wiglaf is acting, there's a difference. He does it for the enjoyment of others. Ben does it because he's mentally disturbed.

[Lorizael]

Banning pathological liars would get rid of people like Wiggy. You need a better criterion.

[Wezil]

Lies are not a "different view from the majority" they are just plain lies.

[Asher]

Not even just the demonstrable lies, the demonstrable pattern of pathological lying.

If anything, you can look at it as a move to get Ben to seek help by giving him a slap of reality in the face.

[Wezil]

MikeH - So what about demonstrable lies? You don't see that as a problem?

[SpencerH]

The ignore list is a waste of time. Personally, I try to live by the credo "do not feed the trolls". I find that if no one responds to the trolls (of all persuasions) in "serious" threads then it's very easy to skip over a single post or two.

[Asher]

I say we don't.

I say we have a poll thread on the viability of the aforementioned poll thread.

[Lorizael]

I say we start a poll thread.

I say we don't.

[Ming]

Just because people see his posts sometimes doesn't mean they don't wish he'd never return.

I don't argue that point... but I was arguing your opinon that half the members have him on ignore.

[loinburger]

The ignore feature doesn't work - the people most in need of being ignored are too likely to be quoted, and even if they're not then they're still able to destroy any thread they touch.

[Asher]

Just because people see his posts sometimes doesn't mean they don't wish he'd never return.

It's just like looking at a car wreck. You don't wish for them to happen, and they screw up your commute, but you can't help but look at them.

[Ming]

Just from looking at who responds to him and quotes what he posts, vs the people that claim he is on ignore, I would have to estimate that it is nowhere near half.