Huge Canadian Politics Scandal Involving Prime Minister! Christian nuttery involved

[Asher]

I'm still wicked pissed that Harper pocketed Christ like a petty shoplifter.

[Ben Kenobi]

You get tossed if you refuse the blessing?

You get tossed if you go and raise your middle finger to the priest.

No, it's because it's her job to sit on her increasingly fat ass and do nothing but smile and wave and take communions.

Liking the monarchy more and more. You are an excellent debater Asher. I'd much rather have an unobtrusive monarchy then an intrusive republic.

[Jon Miller]

Ah. So they're just wafers until the Priest makes them Christ. That makes sense.

I didn't say I agree with it.

It was more just a note saying that there wasn't some factory somewhere. Although I do think that there is one factory that they have come to rely upon.

JM

[Asher]

You get tossed if you go and raise your middle finger to the priest.

For the third ****ing time: answer the ****ing question.

How do you refuse the blessing?

Liking the monarchy more and more. You are an excellent debater Asher. I'd much rather have an unobtrusive monarchy then an intrusive republic.

Canada is a monarchy and not a republic. Idiot.

[Asher]

I didn't say I agree with it.

It was more just a note saying that there wasn't some factory somewhere. Although I do think that there is one factory that they have come to rely upon.

JM

Does it need to be a specific kind of wafer? Or can a Chips Ahoy or Cinnabon suffice as well, so long as it is made into Christ by the priest?

[Ben Kenobi]

How do you refuse the blessing?

If you had been polite the first time, I would have answered it.

If you don't want the blessing just sit in the pew.

Canada is a monarchy and not a republic. Idiot.

Way to miss the point. You like Government 'doing things'? Does the government 'doing things' make you happier?

[Ben Kenobi]

Does it need to be a specific kind of wafer? Or can a Chips Ahoy or Cinnabon suffice as well, so long as it is made into Christ by the priest?

Yes, it is supposed to be unleavened bread.

[Asher]

Way to miss the point. You like Government 'doing things'? Does the government 'doing things' make you happier?

I love this. You're trying to make this into an argument about big vs small government now, and somehow invoking the Queen (who is perhaps the most useless recipient of public money of anything on this planet) as an example?

I would throw a wafer at you if I weren't so worried about damaging Christ.

[Felch]

Some sort of handler on the PM's staff should have caught this. There's got to be somebody whose job it is to give the head of government pointers when dealing with protocol.

[Ben Kenobi]

I love this. You're trying to make this into an argument about big vs small government now, and somehow invoking the Queen (who is perhaps the most useless recipient of public money of anything on this planet) as an example?

The Queen pays in more then she pays out.

[Asher]

The Queen pays in more then she pays out.

Cite it.

[Asher]

Apparently he ate it anyway

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/pm-didnt-pocket-communion-wafer-spokesman-says/article1210809/

PM didn't pocket communion wafer, spokesman says

‘He accepted it and consumed it,' official says in wake of video from Leblanc's funeral


Stephen Harper committed no etiquette blunder at the funeral mass of former governor-general Roméo Leblanc, his spokesman said, denying speculation that the Prime Minister pocketed a communion wafer offered to him by a priest.

The Prime Minister's Office was reacting after a high-ranking New Brunswick Catholic church official asked that Mr. Harper clarify what happened. Catholics consider that the host is the body of the Christ once it is consecrated by the priest and is supposed to be consumed after it is received.

Footage of the service, shown on Cable Public Affairs Channel, shows Mr. Harper receiving the wafer but the camera cuts away before the Prime Minister can be seen putting it in his mouth.

The two people who received wafers before and after Mr. Harper РJean-Daniel Lafond, the spouse of the Governor-General, and New Brunswick Lieutenant-Governor Herm̩n̩gilde Chiasson Рcan be seen putting the host in their mouths right away.

“He accepted it and consumed it,” Mr. Harper's spokesman, Dimitri Soudas, said from Italy where the Prime Minister is meeting G8 leaders.

“The camera was on for two or three seconds. One cannot assume that because the camera was not on him that he did not consume communion.”

Excerpts from the video have been posted on YouTube, where some viewers speculated that Mr. Harper looked like he wanted to shake hands with the priest and wasn't expecting to get the wafer instead.

“It's not the first time that he's attended a service,” Mr. Soudas said however.

The issue was initially raised by Monsignor Brian Henneberry, vicar general and chancellor in the Diocese of Saint John.

“It's worse than a faux pas, it's a scandal from the Catholic point of view,” he told the Saint John Telegraph-Journal.

Father Henneberry, who spoke up after receiving a call from a concerned Catholic, was not available for comment today, the diocese said.

The other matter is whether Mr. Harper should have declined the wafer since he is as an evangelical Protestant, a member of the Christian and Missionary Alliance Church.

“Who is the Prime Minister to question a priest offering him communion?” Mr. Soudas said.

Following the G8 summit, Mr. Harper is to have an audience with the Pope on Saturday.

[Ben Kenobi]

The urban portfolio accounts for more than 73% of The Crown Estate's property value (including indirectly held property) and over 74% of its gross revenue surplus. During 2008/09, revenue including indirect investment was £213.3 million, up by 3.3% on the previous year. Property values including indirect investment fell by 21% to £4.2 billion.

http://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/annual-report/performance/urban.html

Civil list payments are only about 8 million pounds a year for the entire royal family.

So, the Queen earns 213 million pounds for the state, and they pay her 8. She returns 26x as much to the government as they return to her.

That doesn't even include the amount she pays in taxes for the Duchies of Cornwall and Lancaster.

[SlowwHand]

I do, as well as any faithful Catholic, but of course we know you consider us all to be idiots.

It is a massive public relations disaster.

1. It shows that the prime minister knows nothing about Catholicism to make a basic, basic mistake like this. It's well understandable that a evangelical protestant would be so unfamiliar with a mass as to not know this.

2. What is he doing receiving communion anyways? He's not Catholic. He shouldn't be receiving the wafer at all.

Not just Catholics have communion.

[Asher]

http://www.thecrownestate.co.uk/annu...nce/urban.html

Civil list payments are only about 8 million pounds a year for the entire royal family.

So, the Queen earns 213 million pounds for the state, and they pay her 8. She returns 26x as much to the government as they return to her.

That doesn't even include the amount she pays in taxes for the Duchies of Cornwall and Lancaster.

It also doesn't include the cost of the Queen, so it's not at all relevant.

Where is the cost of her staff? Her transportation? Maintenance and renovations at Buckingham Palace?

Why should I even have to enumerate this to you.