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  • Apparently that only set in with advanced age, though.

    -Arrian
    grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

    The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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    • Originally posted by Arrian View Post
      Crosspost...

      Holy ****, Imran! You haven't seen Khan? WTF?

      Not only does Spock sacrifice himself to save the crew, he has that classic line "the good of the many outweighs the good of the few, or the one" (how socialist, eh?) as he does it.

      Spoiler:
      There is, admittedly, one difference: Spock appeared to understand that he wasn't going to stay dead. He deliberately mind-melded with Bones before going to his death, preserving his memories so they could later be put back into his reincarnated (by virtue of the genesis device) body. That's not an option this time. Then again, Spock is now an old man. The logic applies: he can sacrifice himself to take out the bad guy (and the hazardous material he's toting around) or he can... meekly surrender, giving that material over to a lunatic out for revenge.


      -Arrian
      I'd imagine most people born in 1980 or after haven't seen it... anyways, it could be then as Asher said, he felt that more would have been saved if he could help prepare for things like the Borg coming.
      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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      • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
        I'd imagine most people born in 1980 or after haven't seen it... anyways, it could be then as Asher said, he felt that more would have been saved if he could help prepare for things like the Borg coming.
        Everyone's seen Khan.

        You must see it. It's a classic.

        It's required viewing for geeks. Otherwise you won't get references like shouting KHAAAAAANNNN!!!!!
        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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        • Never was really into Star Trek.
          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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          • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
            Never was really into Star Trek.
            You don't have to be to enjoy Khan. It's, legitimately, a great flick. Truly the only great ST movie of 1-10.
            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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            • Agreed. It's the best ST film, and the one that lots of non-trekkies like (I'm sensing some similarities with the new one there).

              It's worth watching, really.

              -Arrian
              grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

              The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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              • Yeah. Seriously. How can you not have seen Khan? Hi. I'm 23.
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                • Imran, dude, no way in hell do I believe you are only 28. You come across as older than Sloww.
                  You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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                  • Originally posted by Asher View Post
                    Why do you think he's an incompetent coward?
                    Originally posted by Arrian View Post
                    Apparently that only set in with advanced age, though.

                    -Arrian
                    So...this is just proof that as you grow older, you become more right wing?
                    You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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                    • Originally posted by Krill View Post
                      Imran, dude, no way in hell do I believe you are only 28. You come across as older than Sloww.
                      Well I'll be 29 in less than a month .

                      And no one (aside from Gramps) comes across older than Sloww .
                      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                      • KH FOR OWNER!
                        ASHER FOR CEO!!
                        GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!

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                        • You guys are missing the point. The only reason why Alternative Spock's plan worked was because he got last minute assistance from the Enterprise.



                          If Spock Prime did that, yes he would have eliminated Red Matter as a source of destruction but you still would have the itsy issue of a space ship capable of destroying entire 23rd century fleets under the command of a madman. Christ there is no need to destroy a planet, just nuke it. It has been stated in TOS that the Enterprise could easily lay waste to an entire planet (if its undefended).

                          Nero would just have needed more time, perhaps he would need to contact 23rd century Romulans, perhaps he would need to do some mercenary work to buy the appropriate weaponry for planetary sterilization (though why the impressive arms that his ship has are not up to the task is beyond me). So in short Spock Prime trying to ram the ship results in a dead Spock and a Nero who needs 10 years instead of 10 weeks to complete his genocide (no big deal for a guy who waited what some 20 or so years doing nothing?)
                          Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                          The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
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                          • Why was it necessary to creat the black hole at the center of the planet?

                            Doesn't make sense
                            I need a foot massage

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                            • Originally posted by Barnabas View Post
                              Why was it necessary to creat the black hole at the center of the planet?

                              Doesn't make sense
                              I agree it dosen't.


                              Unless they wanted to use the core temperature of the planet to "ignite" the red matter... but the same could be done by just shooting at it.
                              Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                              The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                              The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                              • And the escape from the blackhole didn't make sense either, there was no escape possible methinks
                                I need a foot massage

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