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Originally posted by Jon Miller View PostDefining normality. Outside of a social system, see (B).
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A) In our social system there is plenty of sex that is consensual but not considered normal. Homosexuality used to be in this category (and still is in some demographics). When discussing how society ought to be, you can't really bring up such transient social norms as hard arguments.
B) 'outside of a social system', why is sex with developed same-sex partners (which cannot result in procreation, the main biological function of sex) any more normal than sex with undeveloped partners, or trees?
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We allow 'non-normal' sex when it is between consenting people.
BDSM, homosexuality, and possibly many other examples exist.
That is why (A) is so important.
Not arbitrary or false.
BDSM is not normal, beastality is not normal, pedophilia is not normal, homosexuality is (arguably) not normal.
Two of those in their practice fundamentally involve lack of consent. One of those involve lack of consent of a human, and the harm of a human who can't give consent to be harmed.
Of all human inclinations, including all the non-normal ones, pedophilia is the one of the worst. Arguably it does the most harm in our society.
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Homosexuals defense of homosexualities normality is that it is attraction to sexually mature humans.
Pedophiles don't have that defense.
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Originally posted by Jon Miller View PostHomosexuals defense of homosexualities normality is that it is attraction to sexually mature humans.
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Originally posted by Kuciwalker View PostWhy is that the standard? Why is it normal to be attracted to a sexually mature same-sex partner versus any other thing you can **** but not reproduce with?
However, it doesn't cause harm, and can take place between consenting adults.
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Not arbitrary or false.
Kuci has some excellent points here. I'm curious how the folks who support homosexuality get their way out of them.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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Originally posted by Kuciwalker View PostWhy should abnormality influence our norms?
edit: if you make an etymological argument I will stab you
Any practicing pedophile is
1. causing harm to a defenseless human
2. forcing a human
Any practicing bestiality person is
1. causing harm to a defenseless animal
2. forcing an animal
I care a lot less about animals.
Finally, we determine a difference bewteen mental and physical causes. As well as numbers of the people who deviate from norm.
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GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.
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I believe we can accept that pedophiles are not intrinsically evil people. Therefore, without evidence that they are universally dangerous, we shouldn't repress and ostracize them. It should be acceptable for pedophiles to come out (especially to seek treatment) without having their lives destroyed.
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