When will it be acceptable for pedophiles to get out of the closet?

[Jon Miller]

It's not a medical question as much as an psychological question I think. But Depo-Provera in combination with Paxil, Prozac or Zoloft takes away most of the sexual urge.

That doesn't mean that there is a change of desire. Think of desire as a vector, that just changes the magnitude of the vector, not the direction.

JM
(Better is as a tensor)

[Jon Miller]

That's a common argument that I've never seen backed up by any facts.

I also don't trust the medical community as well the physics community, particularly on the more 'brain' stuff.

However, there are studies referred to quite often. It isn't some 'beleif' without any scientific backing.

The science might currently be wrong, the but the science backs the statements I made. Currently. This isn't a subject that no one studies.

In fact, I Think one of the links I posted refers to studies done.

JM

[Wiglaf]

Girls are getting the boobs sooner and sooner; pretty soon 10 years old will be fair game.

[Kuciwalker]

I also don't trust the medical community as well the physics community, particularly on the more 'brain' stuff.

However, there are studies referred to quite often. It isn't some 'beleif' without any scientific backing.

The science might currently be wrong, the but the science backs the statements I made. Currently. This isn't a subject that no one studies.

In fact, I Think one of the links I posted refers to studies done.

JM

Neither of your links supports your argument at all, and one of them is completely unsourced.

[Elok]

I'm guessing "never." At least, not as long as people are having children to perpetuate the species rather than cloning or some other sci-fi option. Never been in that situation myself, but I imagine that there's just something about looking at a grown man and knowing he would like to cornhole your eight-year-old that really pushes a fellow's buttons. Sucks to be them, of course, but that's just how I expect it's going to stay.

[Zoid]

That doesn't mean that there is a change of desire. Think of desire as a vector, that just changes the magnitude of the vector, not the direction.

JM
(Better is as a tensor)

Yes, but it changes the magnitude quite drastically...

[Az]

There is currently a cure against paedophilia. It's chemical castration.

It's bad to do this to people but children are more important, and many many many of them can be saved.

[SlowwHand]

Yepper.

[Jon Miller]

Neither of your links supports your argument at all, and one of them is completely unsourced.

What I find easily is medical people saying it. I don't find sources very easily in the medical responses.

http://psychcentral.com/ask-the-therapist/2005/11/02/the-worst-thing-in-the-world-im-a-pedophile/

It is also unsourced, but says the same thing. The issue is that I have scientists (Even unsourced) saying that studies say what I am saying. This is different than 'just a belief' that you said.

The links I have found that are sourced I would have to pay money for. Probably if I connected through UMD I could get it for free.

For example:

http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/288/19/2458

JM

[ZEE]

basically the human race is insane.

[Heresson]

I personally think that human morality is too much concerned with sexuality. It's a general notion, not only about this topic

But anyways, I agree that there should be a differentiation of punishment based on age, but obviously also the way someone molests etc.

As I've already said once, I believe that while people claim they're against molesting kids, by being so harsh on pedophiles they're only making it worse, because a pedophile then won't "come out", won't start a therapy or whatever, and, therefore, the risk of him molesting is bigger.

[Zoid]

There is currently a cure against paedophilia. It's chemical castration.

Which I pointed out in post #14...

[Jon Miller]

I personally think that human morality is too much concerned with sexuality. It's a general notion, not only about this topic

But anyways, I agree that there should be a differentiation of punishment based on age, but obviously also the way someone molests etc.

As I've already said once, I believe that while people claim they're against molesting kids, by being so harsh on pedophiles they're only making it worse, because a pedophile then won't "come out", won't start a therapy or whatever, and, therefore, the risk of him molesting is bigger.

Paedo's who molest generally think they aren't doing anything wrong. If society isn't so firmly saying that they are wrong, then it is reasonable to think that more paedos will think they aren't doing anything wrong. And so more paedos will molest.

Note that just like prisoners and homosexuality, not all molesters are pedophiles (I am comparing them as sexualities, obviously one is completely immoral while the other is between the homosexual and God). I think I linked one of the nonscience articles which quoted a scientist who pointed that out.

JM

[onodera]

There is currently a cure against paedophilia. It's chemical castration.

This is also a "cure" against homosexuality.

[Jon Miller]

Homosexuals have sex with other adult humans. People who are capable of making a choice/etc and understanding/etc it as well as facing the consequences of it. Also people who should (although not always) be functioning sexually and be the proper targets for adult sexuality.

Kids aren't like this.

JM