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  • #16
    Originally posted by DanS View Post
    This is so much inside baseball. It would be a mistake for anybody, especially the Dems, to focus their attention on it.
    Why? It makes the Republicans look soulless, headless, directionless, and leaderless. Why would the Dems not want to focus on this? On top of it all, putting Limbaugh in the position of being the "face" of the GOP is tremendously in their favour, considering he is a polarizing no-bones-about-it douchebag.
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    • #17
      Poor Steele.

      Rush.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by OzzyKP View Post
        Poor Steele.

        Rush.
        If Steele had been smart he'd not have bothered with an apology for someone who isn't even a RNC spokesman said.
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        • #19
          Why? It makes the Republicans look soulless, headless, directionless, and leaderless. Why would the Dems not want to focus on this? On top of it all, putting Limbaugh in the position of being the "face" of the GOP is tremendously in their favour, considering he is a polarizing no-bones-about-it douchebag.
          It's like a professional baseball player deciding to play T-Ball.

          You are president of the United States, and you are focussing on a talk-show radio personality? I mean really.

          Sure Obama's going to blast it out of the park, but the real question is, why does Rush even make your radar?
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          • #20
            Oh, and FWIW, Michael Steele is an idiot. What ever happened to the Reagan doctrine of never speaking ill of conservatives?
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
              Oh, and FWIW, Michael Steele is an idiot. What ever happened to the Reagan doctrine of never speaking ill of conservatives?
              Rush doesn't exactly follow that doctrine either.

              And the 11th Commandment, btw, is NOT about "conservatives". It's about "Republicans". As Ronnie said "People who agree with us 80% of the time are not our enemies".
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              • #22

                Sure Obama's going to blast it out of the park, but the real question is, why does Rush even make your radar?


                Because he's the most important leader of the Republican Party (with the possible exception of Palin). How many hours after Limbaugh pushed back did Steele go on bended knee?

                The Dems couldn't have written a better script. And all it took the trigger this damage were a couple off-hand remarks. Thank you gods of politics.
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                • #23
                  And the 11th Commandment, btw, is NOT about "conservatives". It's about "Republicans". As Ronnie said "People who agree with us 80% of the time are not our enemies".
                  Wise words.
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                  • #24
                    What Ramo said. Rush is now the strawman of the right wing, and Obama helped set it up. I'm sure it was intended to alienate moderates from the GOP, but the side show of right-wing cannibalism makes Obama look like a genius.
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                    • #25
                      Because he's the most important leader of the Republican Party (with the possible exception of Palin).
                      Democrats really believe Rush is the leader of the Republican party? I don't believe that for a second.

                      If he really had power and pull inside the beltway, they wouldn't be attacking him.

                      They attack him, not because he's the Republican leader, but because he speaks out openly against the Holy Book of the big O.

                      How many hours after Limbaugh pushed back did Steele go on bended knee?
                      Steele was quite unwise to suck up to the Democrats by attacking Rush. It's a simple lesson. If you are spending more time attacking Republicans then Democrats then perhaps you are not cut out for the job of RNC Chairman.

                      The Dems couldn't have written a better script. And all it took the trigger this damage were a couple off-hand remarks. Thank you gods of politics.
                      I really don't see what the Democrats have to gain by attacking Rush. You're in power now, you should act like it rather then pointing out your weakness for all to see.
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                      • #26
                        I'm sure it was intended to alienate moderates from the GOP
                        Tehban gets it.



                        That is what this exercise is all about. The only reason the Dems are attacking Palin and Rush is because they are outspoken against the O. The idea being to pick off the weak from the herd.
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                        • #27
                          I see Ben is still as brain addled as ever.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                            That is what this exercise is all about. The only reason the Dems are attacking Palin and Rush is because they are outspoken against the O. The idea being to pick off the weak from the herd.
                            That certainly isn't what I said. They're using Palin's and Limbaugh's narrow definition of conservatism to show to America and say, "This is what the GOP is today." The vast majority of Americans are turned off by them and if the believe it in part or in whole they will be less likely to support the GOP in the future.

                            Your last sentence also doesn't fly. It makes sense for the dems to prop up the weak in the herd. What this really says is that the dems feel Palin and Limbaugh are weak.
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                            • #29
                              That certainly isn't what I said. They're using Palin's and Limbaugh's narrow definition of conservatism to show to America and say, "This is what the GOP is today."
                              Yep, exactly, that is what they are attempting to do.

                              The vast majority of Americans are turned off by them and if the believe it in part or in whole they will be less likely to support the GOP in the future.
                              The problem is this. The democrats have power right now. Why are they so worried about the Republicans? You control the house and the senate by near supermajorities and the white house.

                              Your last sentence also doesn't fly. It makes sense for the dems to prop up the weak in the herd. What this really says is that the dems feel Palin and Limbaugh are weak
                              No, you misunderstand. They are picking off the folks like Steele who don't have the courage in their convictions. The only problem with this tactic, is that you are making Rush and Palin, much much stronger then they would be otherwise.

                              Secondly, you are attacking Rush's base as well, which is going to consolidate your opposition. If the Republicans are weak and divided you shouldn't interfere with their deliberations. BY targetting one aspect of the party, you will end up uniting the Republicans.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                                The problem is this. The democrats have power right now. Why are they so worried about the Republicans? You control the house and the senate by near supermajorities and the white house.
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                                It's quite simple. Obama acts nice publicly and calls for continued bi-partisanship while the dems subtly give the GOP enough rope to hang themselves. Bush did it well while in power and the dems learned his tactics.

                                No, you misunderstand. They are picking off the folks like Steele who don't have the courage in their convictions. The only problem with this tactic, is that you are making Rush and Palin, much much stronger then they would be otherwise.


                                The dems are, IMO, more concerned about a black moderate in power in the GOP than a far-right blowhard and dimwit governor who has already been cast aside by the electorate. None of their supporters will switch to the Democratic party anytime soon if ever. They've nothing to lose and everything to gain by propping up Rush and Palin as strawmen.

                                If the Republicans are weak and divided you shouldn't interfere with their deliberations.


                                Except to help them stay weak and divided.
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