Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Bow Before the Limbaugh!

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #61
    No dem went before Rush on bended knee.

    Do any of you really think we take Limbaugh seriously? The man is a joke as are his listeners. Propping him up doesn't say we think any more of him, but it does give us an extra laugh when you guys take the bait.
    I'm consitently stupid- Japher
    I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

    Comment


    • #62
      Rush Job: Inside Dems' Limbaugh plan
      By JONATHAN MARTIN | 3/4/09 4:04 AM EST
      Text Size:

      Top Democrats believe they have struck political gold by depicting Rush Limbaugh as the new face of the Republican Party, a full-scale effort first hatched by some of the most familiar names in politics and now being guided in part from inside the White House.

      The strategy took shape after Democratic strategists Stanley Greenberg and James Carville included Limbaugh’s name in an October poll and learned their longtime tormentor was deeply unpopular with many Americans, especially younger voters. Then the conservative talk-radio host emerged as an unapologetic critic of Barack Obama shortly before his inauguration, when even many Republicans were showering him with praise.

      Soon it clicked: Democrats realized they could roll out a new GOP bogeyman for the post-Bush era by turning to an old one in Limbaugh, a polarizing figure since he rose to prominence in the 1990s.

      Limbaugh is embracing the line of attack, suggesting a certain symbiosis between him and his political adversaries.

      "The administration is enabling me,” he wrote in an e-mail to POLITICO. “They are expanding my profile, expanding my audience and expanding my influence. An ever larger number of people are now being exposed to the antidote to Obamaism: conservatism, as articulated by me. An ever larger number of people are now exposed to substantive warnings, analysis and criticism of Obama's policies and intentions, a ‘story’ I own because the [mainstream media] is largely the Obama Press Office.”

      The bigger, the better, agreed Carville. “It’s great for us, great for him, great for the press,” he said of Limbaugh. “The only people he’s not good for are the actual Republicans in Congress.”

      If Limbaugh himself were to coin a phrase for it, he might call it Operation Rushbo – an idea that started out simply enough but quickly proved to be deeply resonant by a rapid succession of events, say Democrats inside and outside the West Wing.

      The seeds were planted in October after Democracy Corps, the Democratic polling company run by Carville and Greenberg, included Limbaugh’s name in a survey and found that many Americans just don’t like him.

      “His positives for voters under 40 was 11 percent,” Carville recalled with a degree of amazement, alluding to a question about whether voters had a positive or negative view of the talk show host.

      Paul Begala, a close friend of Carville, Greenberg and White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, said they found Limbaugh’s overall ratings were even lower than the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s controversial former pastor, and William Ayers, the domestic terrorist and Chicago resident who Republicans sought to tie to Obama during the campaign.

      Then came what Begala called “the tripwire.”

      “I hope he fails,” Limbaugh said of Obama on his show four days before the president was sworn in. It was a time when Obama’s approval ratings were soaring, but more than that, polls showed even people who didn’t vote for him badly wanted him to succeed, coming to office at a time of economic meltdown.

      The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee was the first to jump on the statement, sending the video to its membership to raise cash and stir a petition drive.

      Page 2

      “We helped get the ball rolling on this because we’re looking and listening to different Republican voices around the country, and the one that was the loudest and getting the most attention was Rush Limbaugh,” explained DCCC chairman and Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.).

      The Center for American Progress, a liberal think tank run by former Clinton Chief of Staff John Podesta, also pounced on Limbaugh's "fail" line, drawing attention to it on their well-read blog.

      Soon after, Americans United for Change, a liberal group, was airing Limbaugh’s statement in an ad aimed at pushing Senate Republicans to support the stimulus bill.

      “It just cropped up out of how much play that comment was getting on the air,” said Brad Woodhouse, who runs the group and is about to take over as communications director at the Democratic National Committee. “When we did it and it generated so much press, it just started to snowball from there.”

      But liberals quickly realized that trying to drive a wedge between congressional Republicans and Limbaugh was unlikely to work, and their better move was to paint the GOP as beholden to the talk show host.

      This was driven home to them, according to one Democrat, when Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-Ga.) took a shot at Limbaugh in late January only to appear on his program the next day and plead having momentarily had “foot-in-mouth disease.”

      By February, Carville and Begala were pounding on Limbaugh frequently in their appearances on CNN.

      Neither Democrat would say so, but a third source said the two also began pushing the idea of targeting Limbaugh in their daily phone conversations with Emanuel.

      Conversations and email exchanges began taking place in and out of the White House not only between the old pals from the Clinton era but also including White House senior adviser David Axelrod, Deputy Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer, Press Secretary Robert Gibbs and Woodhouse.

      The White House needed no more convincing after Limbaugh’s hour-plus performance Saturday, celebrated on the right and mocked on the left, at the Conservative Political Action Conference, where he re-stated his hope Obama fails.

      “He kicked this into full-gear at CPAC by reiterating it,” said a senior White House official of Limbaugh.

      By Sunday morning, Emanuel elevated the strategy by bringing up the conservative talker, unprompted, on CBS’s “Face the Nation” and calling him the “the voice and the intellectual force and energy behind the Republican Party.”

      Even Republican National Chairman Michael Steele joined in with a surprising critique of Limbaugh as a mere “entertainer,” who is “ugly” and “incendiary.”

      “He took a little match we had tossed on the leaves and poured gasoline on it,” said one Democrat of Steele.

      Steele was forced into calling Limbaugh to apologize Monday, an embarrassing climb-down following the RNC chairman’s criticism of the conservative talk-show host.

      But Democrats kept at it in rapid-fire succession, thrilled that Steele had validated their claim that Republicans were scared to cross Limbaugh.

      Americans United for Change launched a new ad featuring Limbaugh’s CPAC appearance. A left-leaning media watchdog group began a new Limbaugh tracking homepage. Democratic National Chairman Tim Kaine tweaked Steele for his apology. Terry McAuliffe tried to inject Limbaugh into the Virginia governor’s race. The DCCC launched a new website, www.imsorryrush.com, mocking the Republicans who have had to apologize to Limbaugh.

      And Gibbs served up a made-for-cable-TV quote to end his daily briefing Tuesday.

      “I was a little surprised at the speed in which Mr. Steele, the head of the RNC, apologized to the head of the Republican Party,” Gibbs quipped with a grin, before striding out of the press room.

      David Plouffe, Obama’s campaign manager last year and a member of his inner circle still, will publish an op-ed in Wednesday’s Washington Post chiding Republicans for being “paralyzed with fear of crossing their leader.”

      A senior White House aide has been tasked with helping to guide the Limbaugh strategy.

      Outside, Americans United for Choice, a liberal group, and the Democratic National Committee are driving the message, in close consultation with the White House.

      Democrats can barely suppress their smiles these days, overjoyed at the instant-ad imagery of Limbaugh clad in Johnny Cash-black at CPAC and, more broadly, at what they see as their success in managing to further marginalize a party already on the outs.

      “I want to send Rush a bottle of vitamins,” said Begala. “We need him to stay healthy and loud and proud.”

      With President George W. Bush and Vice-President Dick Cheney out of the White House and Tom DeLay gone from Congress, the left had been suddenly absent an unpopular right-wing figure.

      Few Americans know who the congressional Republican leaders are. Even Sarah Palin is now four time zones away from Washington.

      Enter Limbaugh.

      It’s something of a back to the future tactic for Democrats: painting the GOP as the party of the angry white male. But unlike Newt Gingrich or other prominent Republicans, Limbaugh doesn’t have to mind his tongue.

      And the liberal political apparatus is at battle stations taking note of his every comment.

      Media Matters, the left-leaning media watchdog and advocacy group, began a “Limbaugh Wire” web-site Tuesday to track him. “For a long time Americans haven’t really been aware that he’s so influential,” said Eric Burns, the group’s president.

      Democrats are now working hard to ensure that changes.

      “He’s driving the Republican reluctance to deal with Obama, which Americans want,” said Greenberg. “He’s the policeman [keeping them in line].”

      They’ll all get a fresh hook for the story after Wednesday, when a Democratic polling firm goes into the field to test, among other things, Limbaugh’s standing with the public.

      All the attention only offers upside for the buzz-hungry Limbaugh, said Carville.

      “The television cameras just can’t stay away from him,” Carville said Tuesday, a day when cable news played images of Limbaugh seemingly on a loop. “Our strategy depends on him keeping talking, and I think we’re going to succeed.”
      Last edited by The Mad Monk; March 4, 2009, 13:55.
      No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

      Comment


      • #63
        What a joke. The Democrats didn't make Steele crawl back begging for Limbaugh's forgiveness just 51 minutes after he'd spoken out against him. Democrats didn't make Trent Lott declare Limbaugh was "the Republican ideal". It's kind of telling you can't find a single Republican to speak out against Limbaugh on the record without crawling back to kiss his ring. Republicans are trying to play this both ways; keeping Limbaugh on his pedestal as ideological leader of the party while still claiming it is Democrats who put him there.

        I know Republicans never want to take responsibility for anything but its time for them to man up and admit they're the ones who keep sucking Limbaugh's **** when ever he tells them too. No one else is making Republicans do this. They're doing it all by themselves even if they're ashamed to admit it.
        Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

        Comment


        • #64
          I love how Republicans always try to blame the other side when ever they do something wrong. Get some integrity and man up. Take responsibility for your actions for once.
          Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

          Comment


          • #65
            Originally posted by Oerdin View Post
            I love how Republicans always try to blame the other side when ever they do something wrong. Get some integrity and man up. Take responsibility for your actions for once.
            They can't do that, because the Democrats would laugh at them for doing it.
            B♭3

            Comment


            • #66
              Originally posted by Q Classic View Post
              They can't do that, because the Democrats would laugh at them for doing it.
              In contrast, Obama got cudos for his "I screwed up," admission.

              Comment


              • #67
                People like it when someone mans up and take responsibility. Republicans never do that. It's always someone else's fault or some other excuse.
                Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

                Comment


                • #68
                  What exactly are we supposed to apologize about?

                  On The Road To Socialism? We've Arrived!

                  By PATRICK J. BUCHANAN | Posted Tuesday, March 03, 2009 4:20 PM PT

                  In his campaign and inaugural address, Barack Obama cast himself as a moderate man seeking common ground with conservatives.

                  Yet his budget calls for the radical restructuring of the U.S. economy, a sweeping redistribution of power and wealth to government and Democratic constituencies. It is a declaration of war on the right.

                  The real Obama has stood up and lived up to his ranking as the most left-wing member of the Senate.

                  Barack has no mandate for this. He was even behind John McCain when the decisive event that gave him the presidency occurred — the September collapse of Lehman Bros. and the market crash.

                  Republicans are under no obligation to render bipartisan support to this statist coup d'etat. For what is going down is a leftist power grab that is anathema to their principles and philosophy.

                  Where the U.S. government usually consumes 21% of gross domestic product, this Obama budget spends 28% in 2009 and runs a deficit of $1.75 trillion, or 12.7% of GDP. That is four times the largest deficit of George W. Bush and twice as large a share of the economy as any deficit run since World War II.

                  Add that 28% of GDP spent by the U.S. government to the 12% spent by states, counties and cities, and government will consume 40% of the economy in 2009.

                  We are not "headed down the road to socialism." We are there.

                  Since the budget was released, word has come that the U.S. economy did not shrink by 3.8% in the fourth quarter, but 6.2%. All the assumptions in Obama's budget about growth in 2009 and 2010 need to be revised downward, and the deficits revised upward. Look for the deficit for 2009 to cross $2 trillion.

                  Who abroad is going to lend us the trillions to finance our deficits without demanding higher interest rates on the U.S. bonds they are being asked to hold? And if we must revert to the printing press to create the money, what happens to the dollar?

                  As Americans save only a pittance and have lost — in the value of homes, stocks, bonds and other assets — $15 trillion to $20 trillion since 2007, how can the people provide the feds with the needed money?

                  In his speech to Congress, Obama promised new investments in energy, education and health care. Every kid is going to get a college degree. We're going to find a cure for cancer.

                  Who is going to pay for all this? The top 2%, the filthy rich who got all those Bush tax breaks, say Democrats. But the top 5% of income earners already pay 60% of income taxes, while the bottom 40% pay nothing.

                  Those paying a federal tax rate of 35% will see it rise to near 40% and will lose a fifth of the value of their deductions for taxes, mortgage interest and charitable contributions.

                  Two-thirds of small businesses are taxed at the same rate as individuals. Consider what this means to the owner of a restaurant and bar in Los Angeles open from noon to midnight, where a husband and wife each put in 80 hours a week.

                  At year's end, the couple find they have actually made a profit of $500,000 that they can take home in salary. What is the Obama-Schwarzenegger tax take on that salary? Their U.S. tax rate will have hit 39.6%. Their California income tax will have hit 9.55%.

                  Medicare payroll taxes on the proprietor as both employer and salaried employee will be $14,500. Social Security payroll taxes for the proprietor as both employer and employee will be $13,243.

                  In short, U.S. and state income and payroll taxes will consume half of all the pair earned for some 8,000 hours of work.

                  From that ravaged salary they must pay a state sales tax of 8.25%, gas taxes for the 50-mile commute, and tens of thousands in property taxes on both their restaurant and home.

                  And, after being pilloried by politicians for having feasted in the Bush era, they are now told the tax deduction they get for contributing to the church is to be cut 20%, while millions of Obama voters, who paid no U.S. income tax at all, will be getting a tax cut — i.e., a fat little check — in April.

                  Any wonder native-born Californians are fleeing the Golden Land?

                  Markets are not infallible. But the stock market has long been a "lead indicator" of where the economy will be six months from now. What are the markets, the collective decisions of millions of investors, saying?

                  Having fallen every month since Obama's election, with January and February the worst two months in history, they are telling us the stimulus package will not work, that Tim Geithner is clueless about how to save the banks, that the Obama budget portends disaster for the republic.

                  The president says he is gearing up for a fight on his budget.

                  Good. Let's give him one.

                  Copyright 2008 Creators Syndicate, Inc


                  If anything, we're just starting to turn up the heat.
                  No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

                  Comment


                  • #69
                    ...his budget calls for the radical restructuring of the U.S. economy, a sweeping redistribution of power and wealth to government and Democratic constituencies. It is a declaration of war on the right.

                    ...

                    Those paying a federal tax rate of 35% will see it rise to near 40% and will lose a fifth of the value of their deductions for taxes, mortgage interest and charitable contributions.


                    Cry me a ****ing river.

                    -Arrian
                    grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                    The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

                    Comment


                    • #70
                      Originally posted by The Mad Monk View Post
                      What exactly are we supposed to apologize about?
                      You could start with Limbaugh.
                      I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                      - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

                      Comment


                      • #71
                        Is that what you really want for this country?

                        Revolt against a strong central authority, reliance upon the individual, is what made us what we are.
                        No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

                        Comment


                        • #72
                          Originally posted by The Mad Monk View Post
                          Is that what you really want for this country?

                          Revolt against a strong central authority.
                          Someone has been drinking the Kool-Aid.
                          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                          - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

                          Comment


                          • #73
                            Wow. Pat Buchanan had something bad to say about someone left of his position. I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you!

                            I like how he skewed the percentages of the tax top wage earners will pay, and Obama's budget as compared to his predecessor. Way to keep it honest.
                            I'm consitently stupid- Japher
                            I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

                            Comment


                            • #74
                              I don't see how increasing the marginal rate from 35% to 39.6% (via simply letting a stupid cut expire) and removing some deductions = radical. It's not. A cursory review of history would show you that we've been far more "socialist" in the past. Oh noes!

                              The scaremongering failed during the election, and it will fail now. And yes, I'm in favor of a (more) progressive tax system, even if it costs me some money. I voted for Obama, knowing full well that he would govern to the left of Pat Buchannan.

                              As for what we are: the New Deal also made us what we are. Labor Unions too. A whole bunch of [oooh, scary!] leftist stuff. Individualism can be good, to a point. So can worrying about the collective good.

                              -Arrian
                              grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                              The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

                              Comment


                              • #75
                                I was refering to the first paragraph in your quote, not the window dressing.

                                As for the New Deal, read my sig.
                                No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X