Rev. Rick Warren to give the invocation on Inauguration Day?

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Originally posted by DRoseDARs


What amazes me is the lengths some on DU are going to defend this choice. Whoop-dee-f*cking-doo, Team Obama has all these other non-bigots also speaking. Like Warren is supposed to become less of an assh*le by osmosis or somesh*t.

What's DU?

[OzzyKP]

Democratic Underground.

[GePap]

Why have a convocation at all?

Not that I really care about this choice either way.

[Sprayber]

I might have been wrong. The next four years may be fun to watch after all.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Sprayber
I might have been wrong. The next four years may be fun to watch after all.

Do you always enjoy seeing me get my panties all twisted up?

[Ben Kenobi]

Rev. Rick Warren is more than a one-trick pony: He has made anti-Semitic, anti-Catholic, anti-non-Evangelical Christian and anti-gay comments (and was one of the main players in the push for Prop 8), he trash-talked Obama after that Saddleback Faith Forum charade, he's anti-choice and doesn't want women in faith leadership positions.

I can't help but laugh at the folks here blasting the big O for associating with Warren, when the rest of us normal folks are blasting him for associating with Obama.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Considering how the vote went, I think I'd have to beg to differ on the "normal folk" nominclature as being applied there

[Ben Kenobi]

Considering how the vote went, I think I'd have to beg to differ on the "normal folk" nominclature as being applied there

Prop 8 had more proportionate supporters in CA then Obama had as a proportionate across the nation.

So I daresay Mr. Warren is just slightly more popular, given that it's CA of all places.

[Elok]

Originally posted by VJ
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_theology , mainstream since 80s
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_left , mainstream since ~2004

...in the USA at least, Liberation Theology is not in the mainstream. Except on college campuses, where it gives all the socialists from devout families giant boners. But they're not mainstream within the Evangelical community, that's for sure. LT is one of their bogeymen, and invoked less frequently than big-league antichrists such as Planned Parenthood and the ACLU only because it has fewer adherents here and isn't as organized.

Now that Ozzy mentions it, DRose, Phelps is indeed beyond the pale even among the Religious Right. Falwell himself called the man a "first-class nut," IIRC. Rick Warren, from what I know of him, is some smarmy seminar-holding megachurch weenie who has never once cheered at news of fatalities in Iraq; nor does he keep track of the number of days that Shephard kid has supposedly been in hell.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Prop 8 had more proportionate supporters in CA then Obama had as a proportionate across the nation.

If over 50% of the voters in the national election aren't "normal folk", you must be using a definition of 'normal' which doesn't exist .

[Ben Kenobi]

If over 50% of the voters in the national election aren't "normal folk", you must be using a definition of 'normal' which doesn't exist

Normal people seem to like Rick Warren more then they like McCain.

[Imran Siddiqui]

What are Warren's approval ratings?

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


Normal people seem to like Rick Warren more then they like McCain.

The fact that you think you have authority on declaring what is normal and what is not normal, is funny.

[Ben Kenobi]

It's simple logic.

1. IF normal = the majority AND

2. Supporters of Rick Warren = supporters of Prop 8 AND

3. Prop 8 received 53 percent support in California AND

4. McCain received 37 percent support in California

All else being equal,

THEN

Normal people are more likely to support Warren then McCain.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
It's simple logic.

1. IF normal = the majority AND

2. Supporters of Rick Warren = supporters of Prop 8 AND

3. Prop 8 received 53 percent support in California AND

4. McCain received 37 percent support in California

All else being equal,

THEN

Normal people are more likely to support Warren then McCain.

Your #2 is wrong. You can't show that support for Prop 8 equal support for Rick Warren. Rick Warren has very particular religious beliefs. Opposition to gay marriage is a distresingly common belief amongst members of many religious groups. Mormons, Conservative Catholics, Orthodox Jews, Muslims, members of a variety of Evangelical churches all would support a ban on same sex marriage. You have no evidence to claim that any such groups, member of religious sects clearly not part of Rick Warren's, would support him specifically.