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I'm half convinced that Ben doesn't know arithmetic, so basic statistics would probably be pretty far from his skill set...."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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A proper statistical regression like this will have error bars, where they incorporate the standard error intrinsic to any poll. I've done plenty of graphs just like this one before. Heck, with the proper data, I could redo that graph with proper error bars.
My point is this.
EITHER
1. That 19 percent back in Jan of 2008 is completely spurious.
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2. The 19 percent is on the far fringe of the error. It's either one or the other.
If Kontiki is willing to admit that point is wholly spurious, then we can move on.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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Has your statistical analysis ever been published?I'm half convinced that Ben doesn't know arithmetic, so basic statistics would probably be pretty far from his skill set....
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Neoconservatism is a foreign policy ideaology not a judicial one, so I think I'd have to say that I don't think I would like it better if he had decided to be even more incorrect.Originally posted by Jon Miller
Would you like it better if they were called neocon?
What does that have to do with the "far right" adjective being used to describe them or how correct the term might be?In any extant, the left doesn't like them.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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I don't know what the name for them is. The book I read suggested that they came around as a response to Nixon (Imperial Presendency?). Personally I like republicans (and would vote for some) of other sort a lot better.
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Has your statistical analysis ever been published?
You've piqued my interest. Which journal publishes quality work such as this:
Massive error bars there.
19 percent? That one poll is 15 percent off of the trendline.
If we accept that poll as accurate, then there are error bars of +/- 15 percent.
So the for the moment trendline according to pollster.com is 27+/- 15 percent, which means he could be anywhere between 12 and 42 percent.
Truly awesome skills, that.
Last edited by Ramo; July 28, 2008, 17:59."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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My point is this.
Do you not understand the inconsistency of your argument when you cite a single data point from a single pollster to describe Truman's approval rating in 1952?"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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You're well on the way there. You do realize that the Nazis did lots of bad things before they even started a war, don't you? You're far worse than they were before the war. The same applies really – you need to be stopped.Originally posted by Lorizael
I've said it before and I'll say it again: The US is really bad at being evil. What we do now is pitiful compared to what the Nazis did during World War II.t.Only feebs vote.Comment
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Why would I "admit" such a thing? I'm not making up the data. Here's the site:Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
If Kontiki is willing to admit that point is wholly spurious, then we can move on.
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I know what you're thinking. Did he really publish, or is he just blowing smoke up my ass? Truth is, I could be bluffing. Or I could be telling you the stone cold truth.You've piqued my interest. Which journal publishes quality work such as this:
It's all up to you. How well do you really know me? Am I prone to grandiose statements that haven't been backed up?
You've got to ask yourself one question. Do I feel lucky?
Thank you for making my argument for me. I think the approval polls are crap. If you are questioning the merits of the datapoints in the past, then what's the point of this discussion? Why not throw out all the data points as crap?Do you not understand the inconsistency of your argument when you cite a single data point from a single pollster to describe Truman's approval rating in 1952?Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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The above graph shows the point as of Jan 2008 as spurious, which btw is not my citation.Why would I "admit" such a thing?
I'm not making up the data. Here's the site:
How is that 19 percent?George W. Bush's Overall Job Approval Drops to 21%
They say 21 +/- 3 percent.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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You've got to ask yourself one question. Do I feel lucky?
I'm not particularly impressed by the idea that you've published in a peer-reviewed journal, I'm just curious. It didn't occur to me earlier that you'd be lying about it, but I suppose that's possible...
Why not throw out all the data points as crap?
Because there's enough data to make a reasonable average over a short period of time? The most reasonable solution for the dearth in data in 1952 would be to average over a larger amount of time."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Regardless isn't 21% lower than Truman's 24%?Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
How is that 19 percent?
They say 21 +/- 3 percent.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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