Obama Suggests Jesus Christ Not the Only Way to Heaven

[Aeson]

Geee... a candidate who won't damn their own mother to hell? What was he thinking?

[MarkG]

Originally posted by Grandpa Troll
I would only hope that he would not hold this against anyone Mark.

Not even you sir

hey, what have i ever done to you, my brother?

[Ben Kenobi]

And Ben isn't a real Catholic. I wonder if he can get into Heaven. Maybe purgatory.

Unless I die in confession I'll be in purgatory.

Purgatory is the purification for all those who are saved, just as the bible says, that our works will be tested by fire. Those who get through will be rewarded, but those who fail will enter only as one escaping through the fire.

[DaShi]

Dude, you're like the worst Catholic ever. Do you even drink?

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by MarkG
hey, what have i ever done to you, my brother?

You have never done anything Markos, I have allways enjoyed your writings and works here at Apolyton

I was merely replying to this [q=Markos]so do christians have an exclusivity on heaven? is it all christians or just the mormons as south park suggests? and is there one heaven or more? if it's one who does it belong too? if there are more than one, is there a review site i can check? can i switch? please help[/q]

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by Grandpa Troll


The Bible, God's inspired word, states no man enter the Kingdom of Heaven except through Jesus Christ.

He came to fulfill the Law not replace it.

Christians are those that believe in their Heart and confess with their mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord of Lords and King of Kings.

Ben is certainly correct that not all those say Lord Lord shall enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.

Gramps

Slight disagreement, I find the Chatolic doctrine presented by Ben morel likely, the reason, since I can't imagine a perfect loving God damming someone to hell who has lead a moral life without sin, simply because they have never heard the good news.


But who listens to crazy papists right?

[Ben Kenobi]

what if they have no mouth?

Christ can read our hearts and minds, which is why he isn't fooled by what we say, only what is there in our hearts.

[Grandpa Troll]

John 3:16 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)




16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[a] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

[Ben Kenobi]

Dude, you're like the worst Catholic ever. Do you even drink?

Yes, and sometimes I even dance afterwards. To real music.

[MarkG]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Christ can read our hearts and minds, which is why he isn't fooled by what we say, only what is there in our hearts.

this Christ guy sounds good

[DaShi]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


Yes, and sometimes I even dance afterwards. To real music.

Then why do you talk like a protestant?

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Originally posted by MarkG
that said, how many people care if Obama wants to believe that his mother is in heaven?

Too many.

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Gramps:

Romans 2:12-6

All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law.

For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God's sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law, since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them.)

This will take place on the day when God will judge men's secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.

Yes, there will be some for whom have not heard of Christ who will be saved by following the law in their heart. They will ve saved through Christ, for Christ is the one who saves them even if they do not know him.

Lest Any Man Should Boast
Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by MarkG
this Christ guy sounds good

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[MarkG]

Originally posted by Koyaanisqatsi
Too many.

good luck with your country then....