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  • che, I believe that there is some truth in your arguments, and I think there are some errors.

    Perhaps when I am not so angry at kid's unbelievable accusations toward me, then we can debate this issue. You are one of the few people on Poly that I believe has a good understanding of racism...although I think in some cases you confuse the remidies with wealth redistribution and socialism/communism...
    "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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    • How do you breathe with your garlic nose che?
      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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      • PLATO, since whites routinely elect racists to office, including the highest office, why should a Black candidate be held to special scrutiny?
        Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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        • Originally posted by DinoDoc
          How do you breathe with your garlic nose che?
          I don't, I have to breath through my mouth.

          Chris Rock once did a skit on SNL about the fact that there were no good insults for white people. ****, if someone called you a honkey, you'd have to work hard to keep from busting a gut laughing. Mr. Charlie? I don't even know how that's supposed to make me feel. Whitey? Grow up.

          In any event, "garlic nose" or any other insult Blacks have for Italians fails the smell test, as Blacks never oppressed Italians (the reverse is not true). There are no historical wounds to be ripped open. I have no personal experience with being oppressed on the basis of my ethnicities. I have, however, seen quite a lot of racism directed towards my girlfriend / fiancee / wife.
          Last edited by chequita guevara; March 27, 2008, 18:23.
          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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          • Originally posted by chegitz guevara
            PLATO, since whites routinely elect racists to office, including the highest office, why should a Black candidate be held to special scrutiny?
            He/she shouldn't. He/she should be held to equal scruitiny. From my earlier post:

            Now, the question is: Will Obama overcome his racism to preside over a government that promotes equality? This is the same question that could have been asked of many White candidates in the past as well.

            In Obama's case, I like to think he can, but the issue is certainly worth exploring and questioning him on.


            Just as it is with any white candidate....or Hispanic...or any race for that matter.
            "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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            • I'm voting Socialist.
              Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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              • Che: I'm just gonna have to agree to disagree for the sake of not troubling myself unnecessarily over the issue of if minorities can be racist. I don't think I can convince you and I know for a fact you won't be able to convince me. Can we at least come to a mutual conclusion on the limits of Wright's truth telling abilities and say that a) the government didn't invent AIDS as a plot to kill blacks and b) those who died on 9/11 didn't deserve it?
                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                • Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                  You completely miss the point. The systems white people own and created affect and control everything on the planet. Japan isn't an independent imperialism, but subordinated and dependent upon American and European systems of control and dominance. That goes doubly for China.

                  I don't disagree with you about the cause of modern imperialism, but it is imperialism by white people. The fact that most whites no longer think of others as innately inferior doesn't mean we don't exist in a global system of white supremacy. The ethanol boom here in America means more Africans and South Asians are going to starve to death. You cannot go anywhere on Earth where white people don't have a great amount of influence, even if unintended and indirect.
                  Right now, 5 out of 20 of the richest people are non-white. In twenty years, it will be the other way around.

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                  • Athletics alone will do that much.
                    Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                    "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                    • Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                      PLATO, since whites routinely elect racists to office, including the highest office, why should a Black candidate be held to special scrutiny?
                      Because he isn't from the same party as the people who want him to have special scrutiny. It's the usual double standard.
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                      • Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                        Chris Rock once did a skit on SNL about the fact that there were no good insults for white people.
                        Yes, I sick of these white people acting so insulted. It's all a bunch of bull**** if you ask me.
                        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                        - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                        • Originally posted by Aeson




                          Can't back up your claim so now you're trying to hide behind Che.

                          Run kid, run!
                          Your like the stupid obnoxious student in class debating with the prof so why would I be arguing with you.
                          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                          - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                          • Originally posted by chegitz guevara

                            I have, however, seen quite a lot of racism directed towards my girlfriend / fiancee / wife.
                            I saw a very similar thing when I was seriously involved with a black lady. Except she felt the stings and arrows of black culture turned against her for not being street enough and daring to be successful. You mention the open hostility gainst blacks from whites when they become successful, it pales in comparison to the wrath of the keeping it real crowd.
                            "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                            “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                            • Originally posted by Kidicious
                              Your like the stupid obnoxious student in class debating with the prof so why would I be arguing with you.
                              *You're (just to be charitable)

                              The reason you aren't arguing is because you know your initial response to me was idiotic and unsupportable. Further, you don't possess the intellectual capacity to do anything other than try to lick someone else's boots and hope they take pity on you and shield you from the evil, evil logic.

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                              • That had to hurt.
                                Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                                "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                                He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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