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  • Tell LBJ that.
    Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
    "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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    • Originally posted by SlowwHand
      Tell LBJ that.
      LBJ knew it. That's why he hated being vice president.
      "I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin

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      • Originally posted by Bosh
        Sheesh, I don't see what's very cult-like at all about Obama using pretty standard run of the mill community organizing tactics in electoral politics.

        See:



        Obama knows this stuff, he did it for years and it's his model for organizing his Presidential campaign. And it seems pretty clear that its working damn well so far...
        Holy crap! I just followed that link; I knew a bit about Alinsky, but never expected this;

        Alinsky was the subject of Hillary Rodham's senior honors thesis at Wellesley College, "There Is Only The Fight...": An Analysis of the Alinsky Model.[8] Rodham commented on Alinsky's "charm," but rejected grassroots community organizing as outdated. Once Hillary Rodham Clinton became First Lady of the United States, the thesis was suppressed by the White House for fear of being associated too closely with Alinsky's ideas.[9]

        Alinsky also had a significant influence on Barack Obama, who is a United States Senator and candidate for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination.[8] Obama particularly used Alinsky's techniques while participating in Chicago community organizations in the 1980s.
        So, basically, Hillary's run at the nomination has turned into a $100 million test of the hypothesis her senior thesis. If she loses, I sure hope she reams out her thesis advisor.
        "I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin

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        • Awesome!

          Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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          • That's great

            -Arrian
            grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

            The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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            • Dear god, dear dear sweet god

              Join us in supporting Hillary Clinton for President of the United States to bring back our democracy!
              Stop Quoting Ben

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              • Originally posted by Bosh
                Dear god, dear dear sweet god

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvyGydc8no
                Nooooooooo! Don't watch that!
                I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                • Originally posted by Kidicious


                  Nooooooooo! Don't watch that!
                  What about this one?

                  Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.
                  Stop Quoting Ben

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                  • Originally posted by Bosh


                    What about this one?

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA8Wy51Ionk
                    That one I could tell they were trying to be funny. The other one gave me a very sick discouraging feeling about America.
                    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                    - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                    • Originally posted by Bosh
                      Dear god, dear dear sweet god

                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvyGydc8no
                      Clear rip-off of the Jackson Five hit "ABC"

                      A, B, C
                      it's easy as Hill-a-ry..
                      The undeserving maintain power by promoting hysteria.

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                      • Originally posted by Cyclotron
                        I didn't read it that way. Mass messianism would seem to be about the self-deliverance of the masses.
                        And who is helping to delivering them? Sounds a bit like that Jesus guy... helping the masses see the light and realize the change they can bring.

                        What? Why? It's just like Ghandi saying "be the change you wish to see in the world." It's a message of self-empowerment - don't wait for someone to help you, stand up and help yourselves. That doesn't seem scary to me at all.
                        You realize that Gandhi may be the most clear cut cult of personality of any non-dictator... ever (ok, ok, that Jesus and Mohammed guy beat him).

                        It's self-empowerment... with a leader showing the way, which isn't very 'self', but whatever.
                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • Anyway, latest polls:

                          In Wisconsin, Rasmussen has Obama up 47-43, and Stategic Vision has Obama up 45-41

                          In Ohio, Rasmussen has Clinton up 51-37, Quinnipiac has Clinton up 55-34, and Survey USA has Clinton up 56-39.

                          In Pennsylvania, Quinnipiac has Clinton up 52-36

                          In North Carolina (May 6th primary), Survey USA has Obama up 50-40.

                          All from http://www.realclearpolitics.com
                          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                          • Alas, poor Romney!

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                            The Apolytoner formerly known as Alexander01
                            "God has given no greater spur to victory than contempt of death." - Hannibal Barca, c. 218 B.C.
                            "We can legislate until doomsday but that will not make men righteous." - George Albert Smith, A.D. 1949
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                            • Out of curiosity if Clinton manages the hat trick of PN, OH, and TX as she's hoping for, does that seal the deal for her or would it still go to convention?
                              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                              • Interesting article for the Obama discussion going on: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...t_the_top.html
                                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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