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  • There was something I noticed in elast weeks episode that I haven't seen mentioned yet - the first time that we see Boomer's raptor, as she is jumping towards the colony - doesn't the large red, pink, and organge Glass planet with multiple moons that seems to be orbiting a yellow sun look an awful lot like Jupiter?
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    • Originally posted by Docfeelgood View Post
      I'm comfused. lil help?

      I thought the humans made the cylons and they revolted.

      Which came first the humans or the cylons?

      Why did the nebula in the first episode not hurt the cylons from another planet?

      What happened to the germwarfare that they found on the beacon?

      Who built the beacon?

      Who built the alter on the planet that went nova?

      Did they not find a starmap of earth in a holo projection on some planet?

      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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      • Predictions: Boomer saves the baby but dies in the process thus redeeming herself. Adama dies crashing Galactica into the Cylon central hive while the hive is not badly damaged but just enough to force it into the black hole. Lee Adama survives and ends up marrying Starbuck who is half Cylon. The humans finally find their new home where they intermarry with the Cylons creating human Cylon hybrids. The friendly basestar jumps in and rescues the survivors.
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        • Adama's motives are a bit weird this time around, though. Yeah, launching a mission to rescue one person is very much like him. But he's thinking of going on a suicide mission, along with the best of his crew. What does he think would happen to the rest of humanity?

          I'm still waiting for Baltar to redeem himself. He has to do something BIG next episode.
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          • Maybe Baltar talks the friendly Cylon base ship into going and rescuing them because he can't bare to live without Caprica 6.
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            • Why should baltar redeem himself? Not everyone does so before their end. It would certainly be within Baltars nature to remain self- serving to his perhaps not so bitter end.
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              • Originally posted by Docfeelgood View Post
                I'm comfused. lil help?
                Why did the nebula in the first episode not hurt the cylons from another planet?

                What happened to the germwarfare that they found on the beacon?

                Who built the beacon?

                Who built the alter on the planet that went nova?

                Did they not find a starmap of earth in a holo projection on some planet?
                1)They weren't cylons at that point in the Series and it takes longer to get the effect in the 12 models as opposed to the machines who presumably were felled faster.
                2)Lee wussed out and didn't let them use it.
                3-4)The thirteenth tribe of man.
                5)Kobol.

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                • Because Baltar is, in many ways, the man about whom this entire story is. He has all those qualities of humanity. He's arrogant, selfish and a bastard. He fraks up magnificently without intending so (he never intended to betray humanity and for it to be destroyed). But he's also brilliant and resourceful. And he's struggled with guilt all along. I really think Baltar had been looking for a chance to redeem himself, he just always gave in to temptations and let selfish gains prevail. It would be very fitting for Baltar to finally redeem himself, showing that there's good even in the worst of humanity. His redemption would be interesting purely for the plot as well as metaphorically.

                  Also seems that the show is building up to that. Virtual Six talking to Baltar about just giving, selflessly, in a recent appearance. Baltar positioning himself as a guy who gives people hope. And now, in this episode, things like Baltar's conversation with Lee. Definitely feels like a buildup for redemption.
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                  • Did they ever explain who/what caused the holocaust on Earth? And how did the final five know it was going to happen?
                    Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try. -Homer

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                    • They created their own machines on Earth that were intended to do work but ended up revolting and wiping the planet out. That's the cycle. The Five didn't know that, they just were working on resurrection technology at the time and the resurrection ship they created was in orbit above Earth, so they were reborn and ended up surviving the destruction of Earth.
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                      • Originally posted by Solver View Post
                        They created their own machines on Earth that were intended to do work but ended up revolting and wiping the planet out. That's the cycle. The Five didn't know that, they just were working on resurrection technology at the time and the resurrection ship they created was in orbit above Earth, so they were reborn and ended up surviving the destruction of Earth.
                        From battlestar wiki
                        After recovering his memories of Earth due to being shot in the head, Samuel Anders reports that the Final Five were originally warned of impending nuclear destruction of Earth two thousand years earlier by images of people no one else could see. This information allowed them to prepare their recreation of Cylon Resurrection and the ship on which they escaped following the disaster. The one that appeared to Anders looked like a woman, the one that appeared to Tory Foster looked like a man. Galen Tyrol, much like Gaius Baltar, thought he might have a neural chip (No Exit).
                        Kids, you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try. -Homer

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                        • Originally posted by Solver View Post
                          Because Baltar is, in many ways, the man about whom this entire story is. He has all those qualities of humanity.


                          And Baltar's conversation with Lee, where he admits he's done nothing that's not selfish just shows that he realizes he needs to do something to redeem himself.
                          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                          • I'm hoping that he will show everyone else how to perfectly and flawlessly dodge any and all explosions, gunfire, falling debris, and so on.

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                            • Originally posted by Whoha View Post
                              I'm hoping that he will show everyone else how to perfectly and flawlessly dodge any and all explosions, gunfire, falling debris, and so on.
                              this form the man that got a huge gaping chest wound from an exploson when they took out the Resurection hub?

                              Or got stabbed in the neck?

                              re the hybrids - they have always seemed to be aware of the larger plan - the way in which they are plugged in to te universe, so to speak, the way they get to experience everything aorund them in ways no one else does (an in ways Cavil hoped he could in his talks with Ellen) that gievs them access to the pattern underlying this whole story - assuming the writers knew it themselves.
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                              "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                              "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                              • Hey, practice makes perfect.

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