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Originally posted by atawa
Not realy, every individual state has a veto on matters concerning "vital national interests" witch could mean anything when spinned right.
It would take some spin-doctor to define the cocoa/milk content of chocolate as a vital national interest.
Originally posted by Brachy-Pride
Russia isnt democratic
They aren't rich either. The G8 = G7 + Russia, because nobody wants to tell them that they aren't a superpower anymore
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They aren't rich either. The G8 = G7 + Russia, because nobody wants to tell them that they aren't a superpower anymore
They are actually on the way back, maybe not to be the superpower they were once but became certainly stronger in recent years than during the 90ies. And they are kinda rich, just look at their resources - they supply lots of countries (and the question if they would use that as political weapon was one of the the major issues of this G8 summit - until the ME fubar broke out and went of course on top of the agenda).
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Rank them in order of corruption. Tough to make a call between Russia and Italy for number one, though.
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Japan should be higher up on the importance list, IMO. Higher than Germany, France, Italy and Canada.
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AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF
CyberShy, I take it you like Germany's economy to put it over GB? France over Japan seems to fly in the face of economy first, what's the deal with that?
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Proteus, I missed the Praxis thing, what was that?
After the Praxis-Incident rather:
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Serb, yeah but in what position? Where's your list?
"Russia qualifies."
Ecthy, why not? Do you consider France's economy larger? France is like Italy with an inflated ego. True, they have Spiffor which counts for alot.
"Germany so far ahead of France in all your lists?"
BP, good question. How can you include Russia and exclude China?
"Why isnt China there?"
Alexander, Russia so far down? They have europe by their energy balls. Your Japan is well place I think. If they ever get serious about their defense they should solidify that spot.
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Brachy-Pride, why do you have Japan so high? Based solely on the size of their economy? Is this a straight economic list? I suppose this is how they should be rated, but...irl, not so sure.
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Ben! How can Japan be so low? What's the reasoning? Canada sould be #1, you know that.
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