Going for the snip

[Mrs. Tuberski]

read the last paragraph he claims to feel it rubbing all the time. iam not seing where it is less sensistive. sounds to me it is more senstive sine he never claimed to feel it before. Imnot saying they are lying i am saying they may or may not be being truthful.

[Asher]

Let me walk you through the anatomy of the male penis.

The head of the penis is the most sensitive part of the body, by far. In an uncircumcised penis, the foreskin covers this head, protecting it from excessive contact with clothing and other constant stimuli that results in dullened sensitivity ("callousness").

There are also further nerve endings -- which are connected to the brain, FYI -- that experience sensations and feelings. The foreskin is the most dense area of the body in terms of nerve endings.

And if that wasn't enough, we've got the historical use of circumcision: it was first used to try to curb masturbation! Three guesses as to why they reasoned that.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
nye u can consider child birth anyway u want. havine expereinced it 3 times i can say that i wasnt in very much pain. and yes patients vocalizatiion of pain is varied just as the vocalization of loss of sensation it works both ways u know

I can't take what you have to say seriously in any case, since it is just hear-say.

[Mrs. Tuberski]

nye i didnt say it was or wasnt painful all i said was i wasnt in much pain. u cant take it as u want i dont care. I have said time and time again that pain sensation is in the beholders eyes and and feelings. not everyone experiences things the same way. i do not seem to understand what is so hard for u folks to understand that experinces vary according to the person. But u guys have me here as mutilating babies and condening penis chopping. I will say this for the last ****ing time. I dont care one way or the other. keep the freaking skin or remove it. if u keep it, keep ur **** clean end of story.

[Mrs. Tuberski]

my example u hear most women complain that giving birth hurts but on the other hand u can hear of other woman going through nine months of pregnacny not knowing then giving birth in a bathroom. u dont hear if they hurt or not. So once again i say senstions and pain are indvidual not everyone will feel the same things even if they go through the same proccedures.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
nye i didnt say it was or wasnt painful all i said was i wasnt in much pain. u cant take it as u want i dont care. I have said time and time again that pain sensation is in the beholders eyes and and feelings. not everyone experiences things the same way. i do not seem to understand what is so hard for u folks to understand that experinces vary according to the person. But u guys have me here as mutilating babies and condening penis chopping. I will say this for the last ****ing time. I dont care one way or the other. keep the freaking skin or remove it. if u keep it, keep ur **** clean end of story.

You seem to be indifferent to mutilation of male babies.

I find the indifference offensive.

If you had good reason to be for it, I could see it, but 'I don't care', from a medical professional, let alone a human being, is a wee bit o' a piss off, for me.

How about we commence wide-scale female circumcision? It'll help with promiscuity and hense cut down on AIDS. What the hell should I care that people are being mutilated in the name of public health? I don't have one and nothing you can say will change my mind because it's just hear-say.

[KrazyHorse]

We have no evidence that removal of the clitoris lessens female enjoyment of sex, just hearsay. And god knows why girls cry when you cut off their clits. They could just be hungry or something.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Asher

Not sure why all these men would be lying.

Who said they were, or implied that it is the only explanation? No one.

[Asher]

It's amazing how much you guys want to plug your ears and say "we don't know for sureeeee" when overwhelming evidence is against you...

[Ben Kenobi]

You seem to be indifferent to mutilation of male babies.

I find the indifference offensive.

Mutilation? Please. For all this purported loss of sensation, it is hardly mutilation. The man can perform just as well as previous.

If you had good reason to be for it, I could see it, but 'I don't care', from a medical professional, let alone a human being, is a wee bit o' a piss off, for me.

The Mrs. has been quite clear. She is neither for nor against circumcision on a professional basis. Unlike the crusaders who see it as mutilation, which is quite questionable, she's taken the reasonable response.

Her reasoning, and I am surprised in your lack of comprehension, is that if you cannot keep it clean, then and only then should one get a circumcision. In other words that for lazy men it has a health benefit.

Seems a pretty mild and inoffensive claim hardly worth the vitriol poured out on her.

How about we commence wide-scale female circumcision?

I suppose your partners would find it quite entertaining that you believe your foreskin to be just as sensitive as their clitoris. The two are not comparable in any stretch of the word. Even given some loss of sensation, I see no claim that the cut men are less able to perform satisfactorily for their mates.

If they were, I doubt that mothers would be permitting their sons to be circumcised.

[Ben Kenobi]

Let me walk you through the anatomy of the male penis

Are you suggesting that a lady that has been responsible for said penises in surgery as a nurse lacks the requisite understanding of their anatomy?

I suggest you make another claim asher.

[KrazyHorse]

I see no claim that the cut men are less able to perform satisfactorily for their mates.

Then you obviously haven't read the thread, because there is a study which claims exactly that. Circumcised men are more likely to have sexual dysfunctions and are less able to satisfy women.

[KrazyHorse]

Poor Ben. We still love you, even if you don't have a foreskin.

[Ben Kenobi]

Who says I don't?

And yes I read that study. Hence my comment about ladies not allowing their sons to be circumcised.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Mutilation? Please.

Definition of mutilation:

Mutilation is an act or injury that degrades the appearance or function of the (human) body, usually without causing death.

Seems to be a perfect fit.