When is it ok to hate someone for their politics?

[GePap]

I never said Marxism has nothing to do with class warfare, so why would I argue such a stance?

This is how you think a serious discussion begins?

[Ned]

GePap, are you going to define Marxism only by saying what it is not?

[GePap]

Ned, I am not you. I don;t define my world in negatives or in opposition to things.



Oh, and by the way, can you explain how my statement about what I have or have not said is in any way a statement about the definition of Marxism, cause I am curious.

[Ned]

GePap, you simply will not discuss this topic, will you.

I give up.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Ned
GePap, you simply will not discuss this topic, will you.

I give up.

REALLY??!!??

Nah, I think you are lying. I think you will keep making silly pronouncements, or asking loaded and biased questions, and drag the thread on and on.

[Lancer]

I'm thinking I'm a Nedite. Not only do I find myself agreeing with alot of the stuff he writes, (though I don't read it all by far) I must say that I admire his persistance in the face of ridicule. Ned is firm in his convictions, unwavering in his determination to be heard and unconcerned with being politicly correct. Also, I haven't seen him resort to flinging the mud though he gets hit with quite a bit of it.

Ned

[GePap]

Originally posted by Lancer
I'm thinking I'm a Nedite. Not only do I find myself agreeing with alot of the stuff he writes, (though I don't read it all by far) I must say that I admire his persistance in the face of ridicule. Ned is firm in his convictions, unwavering in his determination to be heard and unconcerned with being politicly correct. Also, I haven't seen him resort to flinging the mud though he gets hit with quite a bit of it.

Ned

Flinging mud is bringing up personal subjects to tar him. That is different from ridicule, which, based on many of his past statements, is rather simple to do with Neddy.

There is a reason the phrase Nedaverse was created.

[Lancer]

GePap, you're pretty persistant yourself, though I don't find myself agreeing with you very much, I generally like persistant people.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Lancer
GePap, you're pretty persistant yourself, though I don't find myself agreeing with you very much, I generally like persistant people.

I am selectively persistent. Many unfinished Civ2 scenerios speak to that.

On an intellectual level, I find it admireable when someone is persistent in defending a viewpoint they have arrived at through rational exploration. I find it undesireable when these people chose to continue in their persistence in the face of evidence that their previous reasoning is currently flawed due to new information. Then it becomes either pigheadedness or arrogance.

[Lancer]

"pigheadedness"

Yet another trait in you that I find endearing.

[Sava]

Are people like Ned born that way, or do they get that way as a result of their life experiences?

That's what I want to know.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Sava
Are people like Ned born that way, or do they get that way as a result of their life experiences?

That's what I want to know.

Probably a little of both.

Joseph McCarthy

[Lancer]

Ahh yes, Robert Kennedy's good buddy.

[Odin]

Originally posted by Ned


Capitalist?

I suspect each of these gentlemen rather are free traders. Capitalism is the result of free trade. The ideology that supports it is individualism, the rights of man. People who believe in individualism believe in freedom, that legitimate government is based on consent, and the abuses of freedom are dealt with by the rule of law.

So, in truth, I suspect that there are practically no differences between Bayh and Frist except party label.

Capitalism is an economic system based corporations and thier associated investor class.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Odin


Capitalism is an economic system based corporations and thier associated investor class.

Class?

You socialists are all alike. Class warfare this. Class warfare that.

Your solution? End economic freedom. Why "end freedom" and not end "capitalism?" Because capitalism is the result of economic freedom, which is the result of freedom in general.

Your war on capitalism is a war on freedom, which is why I so detest your kind.