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  • I don't think he does, merely he is parroting what others argue. But I could be wrong now that Immy is a flaming commie.
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    • Originally posted by Ned


      More wealth is evil thinking. Punishment of the wealthy does not help the poor. It hurts them because it retards the creation of wealth in the first place. Wealth brings prosperity to all.

      The focus ought to remain on equal opportunity. Today's greatest barrier to equal opportunity is not the presence or absence of high taxes on the wealthy, but the bad public education system. The only way to truly remedy this is to provide some sort of voucher system so that the poor are not locked into bad education.
      Punishment of the wealthy? I'm talking about inheritance, specifically. I'm not talking about taxing the hell out of people who worked hard and made good. I'm talking about taxing inheritance such that the next generation doesn't just get to sit back and live off the interest from daddy's estate.

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      • Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
        And my takes on a) is maybe


        and b) you gotta be kidding me.
        Well, on (b), it depends. For instance, I think a national health care insurance system would lead to greater social mobility, as a bad illness wouldn't paralyze an entire family financially as it currently can.

        Now not on a wholescale adoption, but a few "socialist" programs can help mobility (such as welfare allowing those who've lost their jobs to get back on their feet).
        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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        • Safety nets are a far cry from socialism.
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          “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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          • Not in the Nedaverse.

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            • Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
              Safety nets are a far cry from socialism.
              Safety nets ARE "more socialist" than not having them.
              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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              • Yes and Arnold Schwarzenegger is more Hitler like than me being that he was born in Austria.
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                “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                • Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
                  Yes and Arnold Schwarzenegger is more Hitler like than me being that he was born in Austria.
                  And as we all know, Leftism and Nazism are the same thing, which means that Arnie is actually a Communist.
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                  • Down with the CommieNaziTerminator!

                    -Arrian
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                    The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                    • He'll be back.
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                      • California! Uber Alles! California! Uber Alles!

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                        • Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
                          Yes and Arnold Schwarzenegger is more Hitler like than me being that he was born in Austria.


                          To claim that safety nets are in no way related to socialism is being willfully ignorant. Who do you think advocated the safety nets in the first place? People who complained that FDR's cabinet had socialists in it weren't far off the mark!
                          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                          • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui




                            To claim that safety nets are in no way related to socialism is being willfully ignorant.
                            Where did I claim such a thing? Point being that being related to is not in anyway the same as "being" now is it?

                            Or shall I assume you are the same as your father? I assume you are related.

                            Heck there must be some socialistic policies in our governement OMFGGG we teh commies. ZOMFGGG!!
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                            “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                            • Serious question:

                              Where exactly do you draw the line between having some socialist policies and being socialist?
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                              • I'm not sure there *is* a line. Why not simply a sliding scale?

                                -Arrian
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                                The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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