When is it ok to hate someone for their politics?

[Q Classic]

Q, I didn't give anyone a nasty look. There was no reason to, and I hate those nasty looks too. I just observed so I would be ready.

You might not have, but I know people. People are inherently evil. Someone, somewhere, quite possibly on that plane, gave one of them an evil eye at some point in time, quite possibly while they were in flight.

[Lancer]

Q, I don't doubt it. However the arabs themselves might have looked nasty at a guy with one of those funny little hats the jews wear. People generally suck and it's up to the individual to break the pattern.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Ned
Every individual has compassion and is willing to help the unfortunate.

Damn, you get more deluded everyday.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Correction every individual has compassion and is willing to help the unfortunate as long as they aren't smarmy commies who would kill you if they had the opportunity.

[Kidlicious]

[Ned]

Ogie, and Kid would remind us all of Ken Lay, et al. I have to admit, there are a few bad apples out there.

Commies, on the other hand, are perhaps the most heartless bastards that ever lived in that they manipulate the less fortunate to gain power for themselves. Liars all.

[Q Classic]

Commies, on the other hand, are perhaps the most heartless bastards that ever lived in that they manipulate the less fortunate to gain power for themselves. Liars all.

Honestly? I don't see much difference between them and Ken Lay, et. al. Indeed, much as how Fascism and Socialism are the same...

Stalin, Saddam, that Adelphia head, and Ken Lay are as well. The only difference is, say, the method by which they manipulated the less fortunate to gain personal power (in the form of wealth).

Indeed, one could argue that a society that is based on individualism must also, in some form, tacitly condone greed--greed for power in any form.

Kinda heartless, don't you think?

[Odin]

Originally posted by Ned


Yeah, I personally and somewhat socially liberal (by today's definition) and classically liberal (by yesterday's definition). But the classic liberal position seems far right compared to most of todays economic liberals, who are really Marxists or very close to his ideology.

US Liberals are Marxists?

[Berzerker]

It is ALWAYS acceptable to hate someone for their politics.

Its your loss, not theirs...

Indeed, one could argue that a society that is based on individualism must also, in some form, tacitly condone greed--greed for power in any form.

Not at all, people can express their disgust for greed in several ways within an individualistic society, they just cant trump the freedom of greedy people. If the greed takes the form of trumping the freedom of others, then it is no longer a society based on individualism.

[Sava]

I hate just about everybody... but for different reasons.

When it comes to politics, I don't necessarily hate people because of their views. I hate people because of the reasons they believe the things they do. It may be ignorance, stupidity, a lack of morality... lots of reasons.

Although, when I say hate, I don't mean it in the strongest sense of the word. I don't think in black and white. There are degrees of hate.

I can't really explain it right now, but I wanted to point that out so I don't the the inevitable dumbass response: "ZOMFG, why do you hate everyone? You shouldn't hate... blah blah..."

stfu... jeez...

I hate people like that.

[Berzerker]

Sava the Communist - he shares his hate with us and we share our money with him

[Q Classic]

Not at all, people can express their disgust for greed in several ways within an individualistic society, they just cant trump the freedom of greedy people. If the greed takes the form of trumping the freedom of others, then it is no longer a society based on individualism.

You could argue, then, that in the United States, we are no longer a society based on individualism.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Flip McWho


Mostly its the whole way they go about spreading peace love and freedom.

PEACE THROUGH WAR!
DEMOCRACY THROUGH WAR!

That's the only way

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Ned
Ogie, and Kid would remind us all of Ken Lay, et al. I have to admit, there are a few bad apples out there.

Commies, on the other hand, are perhaps the most heartless bastards that ever lived in that they manipulate the less fortunate to gain power for themselves. Liars all.

I you Ned. You're a kick.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Berzerker
If the greed takes the form of trumping the freedom of others, then it is no longer a society based on individualism.

So if greed trumps greed your perfect society is ruined some how.