A new Cold War started in Vilnius

[Serb]

Originally posted by Ecthy
He got it all right, you've been misinterpreting.

Me what?

How can I misinterpret it, considering that I didn't make a single comment of this article?

[Serb]

Originally posted by Ecthy
The relevant Wiki article says they have 20 ICBMs (USA) and about 150 medium range missiles (Russia, India).

My arse!

I can assure you they have much more than 20 ICBMs, but their nuclear potential is nowhere near to thousands of nuclear warheads.

[Ecthy]

Are you in intelligence? Or in the Chinese military?

[Serb]

I had a great article about their nukes. The amount of money/time and other resources they've spend for R@D works of their ICBMs is inadequate to number of 20 ICBMs they have according to CIA.
More probably China has few hundreds, not 20.

[Ecthy]

That's my point.

BTW, someone got a quick introduction into geographical spread of Uranium deposits (worldwide) as well as economic and logistical networks for Uranium trade? Thanks.

[Serb]

Thanks to google I found the article I've mentioned:

"The analysis of data published in the People's Republic of China demonstrates that after 1970 the US administration, most probably, has grossly underestimated the level of Chinese strategic forces' development as well as problems this development might create for the US if Peking changes its passive foreign policy to an active one. The author sets forth several arguments in favor of an opinion that the US policy in the past three decades was, by and large, precisely what as the Chinese leaders would like it to be. The only exception to this rule was the problem of Taiwan. Thus, the US foreign policy is far from being the best from the US interests' standpoint."

http://www.russia-21.ru/XXI/RUS_21/ARXIV/2002/anisimov_2002_4.htm

Unfortunately the rest of this article is on Russian.
In breif, one of the arguments of the author is that to design its four types of ICBMs (DF-4, DF-5, DF-31, DF-41)China has spent an amount of money equal to cost of 1500-2000 ICBMs. So, claim that China has build only 20 ICBMs is illogical and silly.
No sane person would spend an amount of resources equal to cost of 1500-2000 units of final goods, just on research and design works and after that build only 20 units of that merchandise.

[Saras]

Originally posted by Colonâ„¢
They're just as dependent on our currency as we are on their gas. Ukraine was pretty easy to bully as they don't constitute a very large market of theirs, but to mess with the deliveries to western Europe would cause their own their own economy to collapse. Seriously, what else do they got to export besides gas? Kalashnikovs? Vodka? Not to say they will be behaving rationally all the time, but they haven't got the wherewithal nor the economic autonomy to wage another cold war.

QFT.

[DanS]

Moreover, according to the estimates of the Goldman Sachs Investment Bank, by 2027 Russia will grow to be the most economically powerful country in Europe with a gross national product of three trillion U.S. dollars.

I'm not impressed. Russia is by far the largest country in Europe, so it should have the largest economy.

The only question is how Russia screwed itself up so much such that it doesn't have the largest economy right now. Why instead does it have an economy smaller than that of the state of New York?

Must be the fact that Russia has long been busy bullying its neighbors rather than tending its own house.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by DanS
The only question is how Russia screwed itself up so much such that it doesn't have the largest economy right now. Why instead does it have an economy smaller than that of the state of New York?

Only on a direct exchange rate basis. Using PPP they're 80% bigger than NY

[Serb]

Originally posted by DanS


I'm not impressed. Russia is by far the largest country in Europe, so it should have the largest economy.

The only question is how Russia screwed itself up so much such that it doesn't have the largest economy right now. Why instead does it have an economy smaller than that of the state of New York?

Must be the fact that Russia has long been busy bullying its neighbors rather than tending its own house.

How the hell we could tend our own house more, if we were constantly invaded/threated to be annihilated (btw, by YOUR country)? The resources we could use for imrovement of our house, we had to spent on its defence.
Btw...
1) Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
2) Do you think it's Ok for a citizen of the country which invaded sovereign states four times within last 15 years (Ok, the Taliban wasn't a state, so let it be only three times) to lecture Russia, which last time invaded someone almost 70 years ago, about bullying?

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Serb
1) Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?

[Serb]

Please

[Vince278]

Originally posted by Serb
Please

Serb, I'm surprised you haven't appeared in the Serb-Montenegro thread here.

[Vince278]

Originally posted by Ecthy
Are you in intelligence? Or in the Chinese military?

Neither obviously.

[Ted Striker]

This USA - Russia war of words reminds me of the days back in 1999 on the Off Topic forums when the Euros and Americans would try and one up each other and accuse each other of the same thing every other week.

Russia is no poster child but Cheney is a complete dumbass for what he said and has absolutley no moral ground to stand on after some of the things we have done in teh past few years.

What purpose does this "threat" serve? Other to be inciteful?

ROFL "interfering into the business of sovereign nations"

Okay, house has no mirrors Dick ???