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  • Are you kidding?
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    (")_(") This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your signature to help him gain world domination.

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    • The funny thing is, he's not joking.
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      • Originally posted by notyoueither
        Are you kidding?
        I want to know your view. Please, explain.

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        • Originally posted by Serb


          Yeah, sure whenever you don't like the outcome the elections are rigged. How do you imagine such elections? A Soviet soldier standing behind every voter and checking what he votes for?
          Those parliaments were legitimate and their decisions were legitimate as well.
          The end of story.
          Then why in your afghanistan thread do you claim that Karzai's government was not democractically elected? In the baltics you seem to claim it was impossible for the red army to influence the democractic process while in afghanistan you claim that the outcome of the democractic process was determined by the NATO occupiers.

          What's the difference? Can occupiers force favorable election outcomes or not?

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          • Regarding Cheney, I think he just misses the good old days where an evil empire was digging its own grave with military expendatures while its economy tanked. Now, you have an upcoming asian giant to deal with who are some of the hardest working and capitalistic people by nature... Hell, the Chinese have been capitalists since before Marco Polo said howdy. At the same time they are a communist despotism which puts them at odds with the world's democracies. Our strategy of open markets is a foundation of our democratic governing philosophy. For the Chinese, raking in the wealth of the west, that philosophy must read like 'bend over and spread em' , as they skyrocket into the position of #1 economic power in the world. Historicly, from that position, all else follows. So, I see Cheney, the strategist of the titled boxer who is getting badly beaten, dreaming of the last fight... and making speeches accordingly.
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            • Originally posted by Geronimo


              Then why in your afghanistan thread do you claim that Karzai's government was not democractically elected? In the baltics you seem to claim it was impossible for the red army to influence the democractic process while in afghanistan you claim that the outcome of the democractic process was determined by the NATO occupiers.

              What's the difference? Can occupiers force favorable election outcomes or not?

              I didn't say that it was impossible for the red army to influence the democractic process.
              I can't answer your question right now. It's about 4 am here. Within last 48 hours I slept 2-3 at best and it was over 24 hours ago, so I think I need some rest now. I'll be off-line for three days, then I'll reply. But if you want a short version right now - the difference in circumstances.

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              • Originally posted by Serb
                I didn't say that it was impossible for the red army to influence the democractic process.
                No kidding. But then some of them were also helping themselves to whatever wasn't nailed down and nailing some of the things that weren't.
                "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
                "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
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                • Originally posted by Vince278


                  No kidding. But then some of them were also helping themselves to whatever wasn't nailed down and nailing some of the things that weren't.
                  He's got the Midas touch.
                  But he touched it too much!
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                  • Originally posted by Ted Striker
                    This USA - Russia war of words reminds me of the days back in 1999 on the Off Topic forums when the Euros and Americans would try and one up each other and accuse each other of the same thing every other week.
                    We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                    • You're wrong. Mongolia bashing was all the rage back then.
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                      • Wasn't it Suriname guessing?

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                        • ROFL

                          I forgot about those 2

                          And all 3 of us were there!
                          We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                          • Come on though, even if you dont agree with him, you gotta hand it to Serb

                            The entire Western Coalition and even the Commie sympathizers are tag teaming him and that mother****er is still standing! He will never surrender!!

                            Its that never give up attitude that saved us all from teh Fascists back in the day

                            Go Serb !
                            We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                            • They gave up in WWI though, while Belgium stood to the bitter end.
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                              • Originally posted by Ted Striker
                                Come on though, even if you dont agree with him, you gotta hand it to Serb

                                The entire Western Coalition and even the Commie sympathizers are tag teaming him and that mother****er is still standing! He will never surrender!!

                                Its that never give up attitude that saved us all from teh Fascists back in the day

                                Go Serb !
                                Seeing commies and righwingers teaming up in opposition, someone with a functioning brain would stop and rethink his views.
                                Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
                                Originally posted by Ted Striker:Go Serb !
                                Originally posted by Pekka:If it was possible to capture the essentials of Sepultura in a dildo, I'd attach it to a bicycle and ride it up your azzes.

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