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Exactly. And if you want more, don't be shy. Come get some.
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Originally posted by DRoseDARs
Wow, that was fast.
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Originally posted by Serb
Exactly. And if you want more, don't be shy. Come get some.Originally posted by GePap
Common behavior for the victimized to become victimizers.
Sad but common pathology.
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Haw haw, your absurd assertion got shredded!Originally posted by GePap
Given how many times they have been invaded, it is more understandable than American self-rightetousness.Attached Files"You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
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Originally posted by Serb
Get lost! (to find a nice word for **** off)
"And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
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"No legitimate interest is served when oil and gas become tools of intimidation or blackmail, either by supply manipulation or attempts to monopolize transportation," he said.
The only supply manipulation occurred when Ukraine refused to pay the market price for Russian gas.
The formerly reduced prices were a form of foreign aid. This foreign aid was directly linked to the political direction of the government of the Ukraine. Who the **** is Cheney to complain about that?
Nevertheless, many of the other criticisms were justified.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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An invasion precipitated by Russia's invasion of a neighbouring power is hardly just cause for paranoia.Originally posted by GePap
What the **** are you talking about?
The reasons for an invasion are irrelevant. An invasion is an invasion.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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Killing it is the new killing it
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What about Poland?"Compromises are not always good things. If one guy wants to drill a five-inch hole in the bottom of your life boat, and the other person doesn't, a compromise of a two-inch hole is still stupid." - chegitz guevara
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He was not only referring to the Russians getting cheap gas in the Caucasus and selling it dear to everyone else, including to the Ukraine. (Btw, you're forgetting Georgia's supply disruption this winter.)Originally posted by KrazyHorse
"No legitimate interest is served when oil and gas become tools of intimidation or blackmail, either by supply manipulation or attempts to monopolize transportation," he said.
The only supply manipulation occurred when Ukraine refused to pay the market price for Russian gas.
But also, he was referring to the Russians' threat to Western Europe last week that they would be sorry if they stopped Gazprom from taking over Western European natural gas transportation companies.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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That's not supply manipulation. That's a vague threat...
The Gazprom transportation issue is what he's covering by talking about monopolizing transportation.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
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Western Europe was the victim of supply manipulation last winter. They were impacted by the Ukraine troubles. In any event, the only reason why Russia can charge the Ukraine a dear price for cheap gas from the Caucasus is because they have a transportation monopoly.
The bottom line is that almost the entirety of Europe is impacted by both transportation monopolies and supply manipulations. Cheney's criticisms here are entirely valid and concretely real to Europeans.
What I want to know is why there is no apparent leadership on these issues from Western Europe. The only leadership I can see is from a former German Chancellor who is in the pocket of Gazprom (yes, he's a fvcking bastard and a Quisling besides, Colon).Last edited by DanS; May 7, 2006, 11:27.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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They're just as dependent on our currency as we are on their gas. Ukraine was pretty easy to bully as they don't constitute a very large market of theirs, but to mess with the deliveries to western Europe would cause their own their own economy to collapse. Seriously, what else do they got to export besides gas? Kalashnikovs? Vodka? Not to say they will be behaving rationally all the time, but they haven't got the wherewithal nor the economic autonomy to wage another cold war.DISCLAIMER: the author of the above written texts does not warrant or assume any legal liability or responsibility for any offence and insult; disrespect, arrogance and related forms of demeaning behaviour; discrimination based on race, gender, age, income class, body mass, living area, political voting-record, football fan-ship and musical preference; insensitivity towards material, emotional or spiritual distress; and attempted emotional or financial black-mailing, skirt-chasing or death-threats perceived by the reader of the said written texts.Comment
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I believe they have a considerable ore and wood industry too.
But of course, their economy totally depends on gas and oil, so they won't make a stupid move with that dependancy in mind"An archaeologist is the best husband a women can have; the older she gets, the more interested he is in her." - Agatha Christie
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Cheney is a stupid tool who knows nothing about Russia. The Russians are paranoid that the west just wants to keep them down and they believe it when their rulers say proof of this is when westerners object to the nationalization of parts of Russia's oil sector, the lose of press freedoms, and the authoritarian nature of Putin. Putin loves claiming the west is trying to keep Russia down because it gives him a blank check to do almost anything so he looks for every chance to get up and say "See, our enemies are coming after us and you must give me more power to fight them". Cheney is stupidly playing right into this.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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Yes, Russia is a country with a massive inferiority complex as well as deep seated fears that someone is out to get them. Cheney is just feeding these tendencies instead of dealing constructively with the problems at hand.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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