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  • #31
    Originally posted by GePap


    Heritage =/ identity.

    Russian identity is one of being victimized by neighbors all aorund them. I doubt that is what Belgian identity is about.
    You have no idea...
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Colon™


      You have no idea...
      Then explain it, why don't cha?
      If you don't like reality, change it! me
      "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
      "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
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      • #33
        Originally posted by GePap


        Obviuouly you guys either don;t know much Russian history, or your definition of invasions are different from the common usage.
        Admitted, I'm no expert on russian history, but to claim that they are specially persecuted is ridiculous.
        With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

        Steven Weinberg

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        • #34
          Originally posted by GePap
          You don;t take anything seriously, so that is no surprise.
          I take things seriously that deserve to be. Whining because your feelings were hurt because of mildly critical comments coming from the US is a bit much to be expected to swallow with a straight face.
          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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          • #35
            Russians are crazy.
            "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by GePap
              1850's during the Crimean War
              I'm cool with the other examples, but this one obviously doesn't count. The UK and France merely countered an aggression that threatened the balance of power, regarded #1 priority t secure peace at the time.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Ecthy


                I'm cool with the other examples, but this one obviously doesn't count. The UK and France merely countered an aggression that threatened the balance of power, regarded #1 priority t secure peace at the time.
                What the **** are you talking about?

                The reasons for an invasion are irrelevant. An invasion is an invasion.
                If you don't like reality, change it! me
                "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by BlackCat
                  Admitted, I'm no expert on russian history, but to claim that they are specially persecuted is ridiculous.
                  Even if that was how they perceived their history, that wouldn't explain jack about their position on the international level. Countries are driven by the interests of their time, not by how they feel about their history.

                  This includes post-Versailles Germany.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by GePap
                    What the **** are you talking about?
                    I'm talking about what accounts for the perception of a historical event as just or injust. What are you talking about?

                    The reasons for an invasion are irrelevant. An invasion is an invasion.


                    No it isn't. That's like saying "The Germans feel threatened by the US, the British and the French because they've occupied their country before". You don't geel victimized by someone which you provoked.

                    You can get your points across without sucking up to either side claiming their right beyond argumentative value.

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                    • #40


                      This is hilarious. GePap is trying to tell a Belgian what Belgium's identity is!
                      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                      • #41
                        And he's trying to tell a German how you judge being invaded as just or injust

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                        • #42
                          Speaking of moronic positions, where is Serb? I thought he'd be on this thread faster than flies on crap.
                          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                          • #43
                            Get lost! (to find a nice word for **** off)


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                            • #44
                              Wow, that was fast.
                              The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

                              The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.

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                              • #45
                                Serb hasn't dissapeared and he of course swiftly ended the debate with intelligent and irrefutable arguments.
                                With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                                Steven Weinberg

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