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I can see the same logic behind your argument here.
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I find that awful funny since I wasn't talking about sex at all, that you would read my argument in favour of self-restraint as pertaining to sex.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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No, I know your argument isn't related to sexual restraint, but I see the same logic or theme behind that argument as behind your current argument... I'm not trying to suggest your argument here = your usual arguments about sexuality, merely that they are similar in manner.I find that awful funny since I wasn't talking about sex at all, that you would read my argument in favour of self-restraint as pertaining to sex."I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
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Exactly Ben. But what you and Mrs. Tubs are preaching is not self-restraint it is parental restraint. Do not confuse the two.Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Why? Self restraint is one of the most important lessons for anyone, and an essential skill for folks when they grow up and have the ability to do these things. The kids need to learn how to say no to certain things even though they know they can do them, because of the negative consequences.
The only way to test these things is to give the kids the ability to do these things, and see how they respond.
Parental restraint is not, and does not lead to, self-restraint. Case in point, again, is my friend, who was under severe parental restraint. He never learned how to say no on his own, because his dad was the one who always said no on his behalf. So when he didn't have his dad around to say no anymore, he just went nuts and ended up in prison.
Not to say if you ever tell a kid no he is gonna end up in prison, it is a scale, but the effect is the same. Look at college and how many freshmen just go crazy in college and party away their first year or two. Why? Because their parents had been hovering over them their whole lives telling them no, so when their parents are no longer there, they go crazy. After a bit they settle down. Not because of their parents, but because they've finally figured out the limits of appropriateness on their own. Which they were never allowed to do before.
So youth should navigate the bumpy roads of life early when they have loving supportive family members around to help them through it. Then after a sufficient number of skinned knees, they can learn that self-restraint that is so important.Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012
When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - RahComment
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ozzy You seem to have misunderstood me. I give my kids freedom. I let them make decesions. I am only there to catch them when they fall and to prtect them from dangers i see. Hell man the kids wake up before me and get up and get their own breakfast. I told them dont wait on me if i am still asleep. I have told them if i am asleep do not answer the door or go out side with out telling me first. I trust my kids we havea great reltionship, Its the predators i dont trust.When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
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JHC, this thread is so screwed up. Laz, the OP is pedo spam. I thought that was obvious and everybody was making a joke out of it. OK, maybe the joke's on me now by being explicit about it while a.kitman is a counterglow flunky, but who cares at this point. It's not really that clever anyway.
By continuing to post in this thread, we are promoting this spam. The thread should be locked/deleted and the spammer's IP address forwarded to the proper authorities. They will know what to do or not to do with it.Last edited by DanS; August 28, 2005, 00:15.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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the OP (and the follow up posts) seemed sincere. Registered a year ago - despite not posting much.Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012
When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - RahComment
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Hey, virtual pimpin' ain't easy these days. It actually takes some effort.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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DanS wanna cyber?We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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a/s/l ?Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012
When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - RahComment
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So who is a.kitman, anyway?I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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I was just going to post that.We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012
When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - RahComment
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If you knew me in person, you would know that did not happen.Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
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Remember that court-case against Tassi?Originally posted by Spiffor
On Eventis, we regularily have interaction between a 30something and a 12 year old. Which police should I call?
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So what? Isn't it allowed to have serious discussions starting from dumb beginnings?Originally posted by DanS
JHC, this thread is so screwed up. Laz, the OP is pedo spam. I thought that was obvious and everybody was making a joke out of it. OK, maybe the joke's on me now by being explicit about it while a.kitman is a counterglow flunky, but who cares at this point. It's not really that clever anyway.
Beats me why you're singling me out when I'm far from the only one discussing it, and I'm far from being the one expending most effort on it.The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil FinlandComment
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