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[Mercator]

Originally posted by Last Conformist

I think that's a good idea, if you want to give her the idea you're a creep and/or control freak.

Hmmm, well, I might have put that a bit awkwardly, but I think it mostly depends on how you do it.

The first thing to do wouldn't be to tell her what to do, but just to find out what exactly is going on. As a brother he can easily mention that he has seen her talk to older guys and ask what's going on. He'd probably get a pretty good feeling of whether she's hiding something or not and whether he should take it to their parents or not.

[Mrs. Tuberski]

Originally posted by Dis


you sure it was a girl and not an FBI agent?

I'm convinced every "woman" on the internet is actually a guy. Sorry Mrs. Tuberski.

Np dis. I am indeed a lady. I have been seen by a few polly posters and spoke to another on the phone

[Spiffor]

On Eventis, we regularily have interaction between a 30something and a 12 year old. Which police should I call?

[Mrs. Tuberski]

really i have been to eventis i havent seen a 12 yo there hum course i havent seen the cyber sex thread there either.

[Whaleboy]

I see u have not even mention that i said to get the adults in the house involved and have them investigate what is going on.

My first (serious) post in this thread iirc.

If they get no where with talking to the girl and informing her that what she is doing is potential dangerous then yes you need to get someone else involved and not just to hunt this guy down but to have a talk with the girl as another authority figure to educate her on the dangers of the computer.

WTF? Who pays the electricity bills in the household? Who most likely bought her the computer? Who's paying for the internet connection?

If any of my brothers got into that nonsense now, my dad would have absolutely no hesitation in removing the computer or cancelling the internet connection, and rightly so. I would adopt the same approach for any of my kids because parents do actually know better than their kids, and where that isn't the case, they should be educated... as seems to be the case here with parents ignorant of the danger.

For your refrences and stuff all you have to do is watch the news cases such as these come on every day.

What I'm asking for is some kind of survey or study to test your hypothesis. You can quote as many individual cases as you like, but that only has value to prove that it can happen, which is not being disputed. Multiple news reports may be good for whipping up popular anger or convincing people that there is a problem of epidemic propertions, but it cuts no ice with me. I expect people like you to be able to properly back up their assertions.

Main point if this has not been or is not a probelm then explain to me why almost every law enforcement has a special until dealing with this issue and this issue anyway

Hey chill out! No-one has doubted that there is a problem and a lot of crap goes on in chatrooms and people have been abused as a result of it. You don't seem to be able to say that the majority of older men talking to younger girls are paedophiles however, and that is why I am asking for such a reference to back up the claim that you made. It is that which dictates the common-sense course of action... of course common sense would also dictate strong parenting and not "holy sh|t, my kid's talking to Laz... CALL THE POLICE!!!".

Bare in mind of course that the popular frenzy about this makes it politically untenable for police forces not to have such units.

[duke o' york]

That's "holy sh|t, my kid's talking to Laz... light the torches and sharpen the pitchforks."

[Mrs. Tuberski]

Your ideas of removing the computer from the house is fine but it doesnt always work if you have more then one person that uses that pc, the other users are being punished for something they didt do. Not to mention that alot of people have pcs today. If the teen cant do it at home what makes u think that they wont do it a friends house when your not around. Some parents are smarter then the kids but some arent. Fyi I didnt call the police when i caught the men in my kids buddy list. I caught them both cause they thought they were talking to him and said some explicit things that a teen girl would not say and i know casue i was a teen girl and wouldnt say this
I saved my kid from this its up to the other parents to save theirs

[duke o' york]

So password protect stuff. If she's a 1337 H3XX0R, then you may have a problem, but given that she seems to spend her internet time talking with weirdos, and not posting in threads like Whaleboy's "I want to build a computer", then I wouldn't be too concerned.

[Mrs. Tuberski]

One other thing Id like to add Is for all of you guys with out kids claiming the witch hunt think about this. You can talk this talk now but you dont know what you will do once youactually have children of ur own. Its easy to talk when you dont have the kids. But I promise you your ideas and mentality will change. Right now its only hypothetical whenu have kids it becomes real. My job as a parent is to keep those kids safe and I will do what i have to, to make sure that nothing happens to them. You wanna call me witch hunter for protecting my kids then thats excatly what I am.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

I've got two daughters.

[Whaleboy]

That's "holy sh|t, my kid's talking to Laz... light the torches and sharpen the pitchforks."

I've been bested

Your ideas of removing the computer from the house is fine but it doesnt always work if you have more then one person that uses that pc, the other users are being punished for something they didt do. Not to mention that alot of people have pcs today. If the teen cant do it at home what makes u think that they wont do it a friends house when your not around.

Like DoY said, password protect it...deny her the use of the internet, it's not rocket science. I think it's a little far fetched for a girl to go round to her friends house to the specific end of getting sexual abused by a monitor. Good parents will always communicate with the parents of their kids friends in any case.

[Mrs. Tuberski]

Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
I've got two daughters.

Ok are they old enough to be in chat rooms?? And is it ok ith you for a 40 yo man to be talking to them in a teen chat room. I am not talking a forum like u said you did i said chat room.

[Whaleboy]

I caught them both cause they thought they were talking to him and said some explicit things that a teen girl would not say and i know casue i was a teen girl and wouldnt say this

I hope for your son's sake that they in fact were paedophiles and not a pair of luscious bisexual nymphomaniacs.

Its easy to talk when you dont have the kids. But I promise you your ideas and mentality will change. Right now its only hypothetical whenu have kids it becomes real. My job as a parent is to keep those kids safe and I will do what i have to, to make sure that nothing happens to them. You wanna call me witch hunter for protecting my kids then thats excatly what I am.

Laz has kids, and I have three younger brothers including a 13 year old and a 7 year old. There's a difference between looking out for the kids best interests in a calm, thought-out way, and getting all hysterical about it.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski

Ok are they old enough to be in chat rooms?? And is it ok ith you for a 40 yo man to be talking to them in a teen chat room. I am not talking a forum like u said you did i said chat room.

Well the oldest is 5, so no.

And once again we have the assumption that the case in the header post was in a teen chat room. Now I assume that my kids will one day use public chat rooms, and will encounter adult men.

I'll be talking to them about protecting their safety and reporting any untoward behaviour they encounter. Then I'll trust them. I'd certainly trust them with most of the 40-something men I know on-line.

Then, if they tell me that someone has made paedophilian advances to them, I'd hunt the perpetrator down and pull out his spine.

[Mrs. Tuberski]

I hope for your son's sake that they in fact were paedophiles and not a pair of luscious bisexual nymphomaniacs.

I dont see how either of these are one better then the other, when it comes to my son.

WB I can almost guarntee if you care for ur brothers and they were harmed in any way u wont be as calm as u are now.

I'll be talking to them about protecting their safety and reporting any untoward behaviour they encounter. Then I'll trust them. I'd certainly trust them with most of the 40-something men I know on-line.

You are under the assumption that ur teen will tell you everything. That doesnt happen in a lot of cases. Talking to a teen is like pulling teeth. You have to pull this crap out and most of the time all you have to go on is what they say and hope it is the truth.

Then, if they tell me that someone has made paedophilian advances to them, I'd hunt the perpetrator down and pull out his spine.

ahh i see this is where it becomes a witch hunt when it happens to you.