Gay-Marraige = Anarchy - The Pope

[Ramo]

Y'all are assuming that these elements commute under the operation.

[Thoth]

Strange, he says "anarchic freedom" like it was a bad thing.

[Az]

* joncha directs Az to the posts above.

I hate you.

Y'all are assuming that these elements commute under the operation.

I hate you even more.

[molly bloom]

It's so refreshing to see that this Pope has his priorities right.

And so equally refreshing that the Vatican's Augean Stables still need cleaning.

" Four indicted over 1982 murder with links to Chicago archdiocese

By Chuck Goudie

April 18, 2005 — Authorities in Italy say they have cracked a 22-year-old murder mystery with links to the Vatican and to a former church official from Chicago's suburbs.

Four people have been charged in the 1982 death of Italian financier Roberto Calvi. Calvi had close ties to the Vatican Bank and to a now-retired archbishop from Cicero.

Roberto Calvi was found hanged under a bridge in London just days after the collapse of a bank he headed. The Vatican Bank had a large stake in Calvi's bank. Now, four people are charged with his murder.

The Chicago connection runs from the Chicago archdiocese, through suburban Cicero, to the Vatican and back to the US all in one man: Archbishop Paul Marcinkus, who rose from priest to papal bodyguard to head of the Vatican Bank. Marcinkus left after a scandal that Monday resulted in the indictments of four people, including a man reportedly linked to the mafia.

Marcinkus is not among those charged, but questions about his connections to those involved in the case, remain. In 1982, Archbishop Marcinkus had aligned the Vatican Bank with Italy's largest private banking group, Banco Ambrosiano. The Roman Catholic bank, headed by Marcinkus, was a major shareholder in Ambrosiano. The Vatican Bank had guaranteed $1.4 billion worth of loans made by Italy's scandal-ridden Banco Ambrosiano, loans used to finance fake companies in Latin America that funneled weapons to the Catholic nation of Argentina for use in the Falklands War. "

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/news/041805_ns_gods_banker.html

" Church Hides Rwandan Priest in Tuscany
Catholic Hierarchy in Italy Helps War Crimes Suspect
By Rory Carroll

The Guardian
July 13, 2001

Italy's Roman Catholic church yesterday spirited into hiding a Rwandan priest wanted by the international war crimes tribunal for allegedly murdering 2,500 parishioners during Rwanda's genocide. Father Athanase Seromba vanished with the help of the Catholic hierarchy hours before he was due to say mass in San Mauro a Signa, a village outside Florence. Fr Seromba had promised to explain in a sermon why the UN Tribunal for Rwanda (ICTR) last week sought his extradition on genocide charges.

Parishioners packed the 16th-century church yesterday morning to hear his defence but learned he had gone into hiding at a secret location.

A spokesman for the diocese, Riccardo Bigi, said the hierarchy had provided a bolthole in Tuscany to help him escape media attention. "He has not run away. We know where he is, but would rather not say where. He will spend a few days in peace to avoid curious journalists. I don't know when he will return," Mr Bigi said. The few days could stretch into a "holiday" of indeterminate duration, he added.

According to African Rights, a London-based human rights organisation, Fr Seromba, 38, participated in the 1994 extermination of 800,000 minority Tutsis by the ruling Hutu tribe. Survivors claim the priest, a Hutu, herded up to 2,500 Tutsi parishioners into his church at Nyange, before ordering two bulldozers to crush them in one of the genocide's most notorious bloodbaths. The church moved him to Italy soon after, ostensibly to study, and under an assumed name he served as deputy parish priest at a church in Florence before moving 18 months ago to San Mauro a Signa. "

http://www.globalpolicy.org/intljustice/tribunals/2001/0716rwnd.htm

" The Pope and Pinochet

Why the Vatican defends mass murder
By Bill Vann
4 March 1999

Reports that Pope John Paul II made an appeal to the British government for the release of Augusto Pinochet "for humanitarian reasons" provoked outrage from human rights groups and relatives of the victims of Pinochet's murderous regime in Chile.

Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro Valls confirmed that the Pope had interceded on behalf of the former Chilean dictator. He declined to confirm press reports that the Vatican's intervention took the form of a letter addressed from the Pope, Karol Wojtyla, to the House of Lords, which is deliberating whether to extradite Pinochet to Spain, where he faces charges of mass killings and torture, or to return him to Chile.

"The Holy See supports national reconciliation everywhere, including Chile," the Vatican spokesman said. "


National reconciliation for fascists and murderers, but condemnation for gay men and lesbians.

Oh yes, definitely got those priorities right.

[Pekka]

Well, it's not surprising he condemns the gay, what could you expect from the Panzercardinal.

But how about condenming Harry Potter too, saying it ruins the minds of good Christians?

When Harry Potter is released, these forumsm go crazy with everyone 'reading it, half way through now!' 'reading it to my kids, they love it!', and you are catholics as well, why do you go against the Pope? It's not old statement, it's like new. Stop reading harry potter, it's satan.

Either that, or don't expect the gay people to quit either because they somehow should feel guilty or something. I bet all of you feel guitly reading harry potter.

[Pekka]

Now you say, well, it's a stupid comparison, readinh harry potter and doing gay.

But let's be accurate about it. Pope condemend Harry Potter AND Gay. So is there like a way to not do the other and do the other and somehow it's more OK?

He said it's evil reading, and it has all that magic stuff too that's not good for kids. Magic? OHHH you mean like just about every Disney movie? Lord of the Rings? How about ANY children story? What an idiot dickhead. I bet he never had kids, or a curious mind as young person... oh wait, right, he spent his youth in the Hitler-Jugend.. I guess they didn't have children stories there .

BASH THE POPE BASH THE POPE!



j/k, except for the harry potter stuff.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by DerSchwarzfalke
Opinion.

Good men don't beatify Nazis.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Good men don't beatify Nazis.

Well, not Protestant Nazis.

[Last Conformist]

Old Ratz just want the gays for himself.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Last Conformist
Old Ratz just want the gays for himself.

So he's the equivalent of Vatican Room 101 .


Lurvely.

[Pekka]

All Euros better slow down a bit, this can land them in court of law for trashing religious people and beliefs.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by molly bloom
It's so refreshing to see that this Pope has his priorities right.

And so equally refreshing that the Vatican's Augean Stables still need cleaning.

" Four indicted over 1982 murder with links to Chicago archdiocese

By Chuck Goudie

April 18, 2005 — Authorities in Italy say they have cracked a 22-year-old murder mystery with links to the Vatican and to a former church official from Chicago's suburbs.

Four people have been charged in the 1982 death of Italian financier Roberto Calvi. Calvi had close ties to the Vatican Bank and to a now-retired archbishop from Cicero.

Roberto Calvi was found hanged under a bridge in London just days after the collapse of a bank he headed. The Vatican Bank had a large stake in Calvi's bank. Now, four people are charged with his murder.

The Chicago connection runs from the Chicago archdiocese, through suburban Cicero, to the Vatican and back to the US all in one man: Archbishop Paul Marcinkus, who rose from priest to papal bodyguard to head of the Vatican Bank. Marcinkus left after a scandal that Monday resulted in the indictments of four people, including a man reportedly linked to the mafia.

Marcinkus is not among those charged, but questions about his connections to those involved in the case, remain. In 1982, Archbishop Marcinkus had aligned the Vatican Bank with Italy's largest private banking group, Banco Ambrosiano. The Roman Catholic bank, headed by Marcinkus, was a major shareholder in Ambrosiano. The Vatican Bank had guaranteed $1.4 billion worth of loans made by Italy's scandal-ridden Banco Ambrosiano, loans used to finance fake companies in Latin America that funneled weapons to the Catholic nation of Argentina for use in the Falklands War. "

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/news/041805_ns_gods_banker.html

" Church Hides Rwandan Priest in Tuscany
Catholic Hierarchy in Italy Helps War Crimes Suspect
By Rory Carroll

The Guardian
July 13, 2001

Italy's Roman Catholic church yesterday spirited into hiding a Rwandan priest wanted by the international war crimes tribunal for allegedly murdering 2,500 parishioners during Rwanda's genocide. Father Athanase Seromba vanished with the help of the Catholic hierarchy hours before he was due to say mass in San Mauro a Signa, a village outside Florence. Fr Seromba had promised to explain in a sermon why the UN Tribunal for Rwanda (ICTR) last week sought his extradition on genocide charges.

Parishioners packed the 16th-century church yesterday morning to hear his defence but learned he had gone into hiding at a secret location.

A spokesman for the diocese, Riccardo Bigi, said the hierarchy had provided a bolthole in Tuscany to help him escape media attention. "He has not run away. We know where he is, but would rather not say where. He will spend a few days in peace to avoid curious journalists. I don't know when he will return," Mr Bigi said. The few days could stretch into a "holiday" of indeterminate duration, he added.

According to African Rights, a London-based human rights organisation, Fr Seromba, 38, participated in the 1994 extermination of 800,000 minority Tutsis by the ruling Hutu tribe. Survivors claim the priest, a Hutu, herded up to 2,500 Tutsi parishioners into his church at Nyange, before ordering two bulldozers to crush them in one of the genocide's most notorious bloodbaths. The church moved him to Italy soon after, ostensibly to study, and under an assumed name he served as deputy parish priest at a church in Florence before moving 18 months ago to San Mauro a Signa. "

http://www.globalpolicy.org/intljustice/tribunals/2001/0716rwnd.htm

" The Pope and Pinochet

Why the Vatican defends mass murder
By Bill Vann
4 March 1999

Reports that Pope John Paul II made an appeal to the British government for the release of Augusto Pinochet "for humanitarian reasons" provoked outrage from human rights groups and relatives of the victims of Pinochet's murderous regime in Chile.

Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro Valls confirmed that the Pope had interceded on behalf of the former Chilean dictator. He declined to confirm press reports that the Vatican's intervention took the form of a letter addressed from the Pope, Karol Wojtyla, to the House of Lords, which is deliberating whether to extradite Pinochet to Spain, where he faces charges of mass killings and torture, or to return him to Chile.

"The Holy See supports national reconciliation everywhere, including Chile," the Vatican spokesman said. "


National reconciliation for fascists and murderers, but condemnation for gay men and lesbians.

Oh yes, definitely got those priorities right.

You should know better, Molly.

Such frivulous things as murder, internal/institutional corruption, and repressive regimes pale in comparison to the uber-threat of gays.

[Ben Kenobi]

You should marry him.

Slow on the trigger.

[Ben Kenobi]

As for Molly's critiques of the priorities of the pope, I thought he railed on the church to deal with their pedophile abuses, the majority of the cases commited by priests whom have homosexual inclinations.

[St Leo]

Hmm?

How common are little girls' choirs in Catholicism?