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  • Oy yes they will be sigining songs about the gloriuos victory in Afghanistan for years to come.

    Those pesky Chechens were dispatched with consumate ease aswell wern't they.
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    • Originally posted by The Mad Monk
      You should keep your conquests because you helped China to take and hold theirs?
      Why not? Seems like a fair trade to me.

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      • Originally posted by Serb

        Very funny.

        You guys seems to do not understand, that aside 1991 when Iraqis soldiers fought in Kuwait and fought there because of Saddam, currently they will fight on their own territory and will fight for their own country. Currently they will not fight for Saddam, they will fight against foreign agressors who invaded their country.
        Keep laughting. You just started the war, not won it yet.
        Sorry, buddy boy. I'm quite sure things will get deadly serious here shortly. As I write this, air raid sirens are sounding in Kuwait City and shouts of "Bunker! Bunker! Bunker!" are being reported from embedded journalists among troops in northern Kuwait.

        I do believe, however, that our forces will do immeasurably better in the Middle East than the *former* Soviet Union could have ever hoped to have done.

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        • I don't see forces in Iraq who will fight on American side.
          Kurds? Shi'ites? How do you think the US gets it's intelligence inside Iraq?

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          • Many doesn't mean majority. When Chenese population will reach 3% in Vladivostok, let me know.I'll start to worry.
            "Regardless, the Federal Migration Service fears a flood. The service has repeatedly warned that the Chinese could become the dominant ethnic group in the Russian Far East in 20 to 30 years. Such an occurrence would require an annual influx of about 250,000 to 300,000 Chinese, less than one-third the rate that Shaikin currently claims."



            Also:

            "It’s impossible to know the exact level of Chinese migration into the Russian Far East; Russia has not run a census in over a decade."
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            • Originally posted by Propaganda


              He is talking about the Amur and Ussuri regions of the former USSR. The Cossaks took those regions over by order of the Tsar in mid 1800s.
              In this case I demand that Americans should return all lands they conquered to Native Americans and leave American continent, because it's obvious that Americans occupy territory which belongs to Native Americans.


              P.S. And return Alaska to Russia.

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              • Originally posted by obiwan18


                Also:

                "It’s impossible to know the exact level of Chinese migration into the Russian Far East; Russia has not run a census in over a decade."

                Also, (from the same article)
                "But there is no reason to believe that, over time, Moscow will simply let the region slip from its grasp. "

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                • Originally posted by Gatekeeper


                  I do believe, however, that our forces will do immeasurably better in the Middle East than the *former* Soviet Union could have ever hoped to have done.

                  Gatekeeper
                  Oh please, how can you compare the Soviet campaign of 1979 to the Afghanistan campaign of 2001?

                  Weapons technology has moved forward now and America is in a considerably favorable position, with the Soviets gone and newer weapons developed.

                  Let's also look at the differences of both wars. The Soviets marched into Afghanistan and were shortly attacked by rebels from Pakistan; not just some martyrs with bayonets in hand, mind you, but trained operatives, not to mention the numbers of them. We also didn't have the caliber of weapons that are provided to the US in today's world.

                  For the US campaign, much has changed. The former "freedom fighters" no longer have operational weapons. What ever they do have that is operational is Soviet material dated back to the 70s. They don't have the training that the CIA gave them to counteract the Soviets and today, are mostly disorganized ruble and the number of them is lower than what the Soviets faced.

                  Now considering the loss ratio for both sides in the Soviet-Afghan war, I say we held out pretty good against them and their guerilla tactics.

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                  • Double post.

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                    • Originally posted by Serb


                      In this case I demand that Americans should return all lands they conquered to Native Americans and leave American continent, because it's obvious that Americans occupy territory which belongs to Native Americans.


                      P.S. And return Alaska to Russia.


                      I was about to just post that, my good friend.

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                      • But there is no reason to believe that, over time, Moscow will simply let the region slip from its grasp.
                        True. I meant it more of a caution, then an inevitability.

                        I wouldn't want to see a war over the Russian Far East.
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                        • In this case I demand that Americans should return all lands they conquered to Native Americans and leave American continent, because it's obvious that Americans occupy territory which belongs to Native Americans.
                          Since I have Native American ancestry, and since I am a voting US citizen, you could say it already has.
                          No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                          • Originally posted by Propaganda

                            Now considering the loss ratio for both sides in the Soviet-Afghan war, I say we held out pretty good against them and their guerilla tactics.
                            If we compare two wars wich lasted aproximately the same time- Soviet war in Afganistan and American in Vietnam, then we will see that Soviets lost 14 500 KIA, while Americans lost about 60 000 KIA.
                            Any questions?

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                            • Well, the Americans did have much greater success in killing people there - about 2-3 million Vietnamese died. How many Afghans died?

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                              • Originally posted by The Mad Monk


                                Since I have Native American ancestry, and since I am a voting US citizen, you could say it already has.
                                I guess we could easily find a single Vladivostok's citizen who has Chinese ancestry and who will say that Vladivostok is already returned to China.

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