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**KrazyHorse** · February 20, 2003, 19:15

The CA could go without ever winning a seat in Quebec and still be more broadly acceptable and less chauvinist. They've got to start thinking about doing something significant, though. Otherwise they're going to be stuck where they are forever.

**Asher** · February 20, 2003, 19:16

I think people should forget Mulroney and give the PCs a chance.

They're my ideal party. Joe Clark needs better leadership skills though...

**Ben Kenobi** · February 20, 2003, 19:17

They've got to start thinking about doing something significant, though. Otherwise they're going to be stuck where they are forever.

Frogger:
Substantive suggestions? I'm a CA voter, so my views on how to expand the party to make it more palatable don't count.

**KrazyHorse** · February 20, 2003, 19:19

More than 2/3 of the Liberal seats are in one province, Ontario, a larger proportion than any other 'regional party' excluding the BQ

Very astute analysis...but Ontario's so damn big that if you win it it's hard to avoid having a majority-Ontario caucus. And at the same time the Libs aren't "just" Ontario; they've also appealed to Montreal (which is mostly red at election time) and also some significant wins elsewhere.

Significant, because without them they'd be a minority government, not on their 3rd majority.

**KrazyHorse** · February 20, 2003, 19:20

Originally posted by obiwan18

Frogger:
Substantive suggestions? I'm a CA voter, so my views on how to expand the party to make it more palatable don't count.

How the hell do I know?

I'm an NDPer, so I don't know what Liberal voters are thinking either.

**KrazyHorse** · February 20, 2003, 19:21

Originally posted by Asher
I think people should forget Mulroney and give the PCs a chance.

They're my ideal party. Joe Clark needs better leadership skills though...

I'm glad they don't.

I'll take the Grits over the Tories any day...

**Asher** · February 20, 2003, 19:22

Look at the latest Liberal budget. Biggest spending increase in decades.

It's time to become slightly more responsible...

**KrazyHorse** · February 20, 2003, 19:23

Still in the black, my Albertan semi-Canadian Tory.

**KrazyHorse** · February 20, 2003, 19:25

By the way, has anybody been noticing how hard the CA has been going after Martin lately?

They might think it's a good idea to attack the person they figure will be their next opponent starting now, but it might backfire...

If the Liberals get too nervous about Martin they might decide to go with Kopps or Manley instead.

**Asher** · February 20, 2003, 19:26

That debt isn't going to shrink itself.
Debt maintenance ain't going to get any cheaper.

Do the Liberal possess the ability to look into the future at all, or do they just care about the present?

**KrazyHorse** · February 20, 2003, 19:26

Debt maintenance ain't going to get any cheaper.

Yes it will.

**Asher** · February 20, 2003, 19:27

How do you figure?

**KrazyHorse** · February 20, 2003, 19:27

And we're already carrying less debt load as a percentage of GDP than any other G8 nation, IIRC. About 30% lower than the US...

**KrazyHorse** · February 20, 2003, 19:28

Originally posted by Asher
How do you figure?

If the debt maintenance remains constant, then its burden will diminish as growth and inflation continue.

**Asher** · February 20, 2003, 19:28

I don't consider that an excuse.

If we're going to compare apples to oranges, we might as well comparE Alberta's debt load as a percentage of GDP to Canada's, and see how that works.

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