boddingtons, what makes you think gay men are not tough?
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Originally posted by obiwan18
Anyway, I agree that they should be able to fight in the military, if they so desire. One's sexual orientation has no bearing on how well they fight. However, some soldiers will be uncomfortable working with them. For this reason, I think they should be careful.
Of course, I realize that others may feel uncomfortable. So what? Unless actual sexual harassment takes place, they need to get over it. However, if they have a legitimate claim that a man was behaving innappropriately, the sexual harassment/equal opportunity policy in the military is very comprehensive. It's only a matter of following the right channels-- and believe me, sexual harassment, at least, in the units I've been in, is NOT TOLERATED. So why pander to some soldiers issues of being a little uncomfortable-- when we are throwing away a valuable human resource by discharging gays and lesbians?
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Originally posted by Boddington's
"gays in the military?"
Bad idea. We need the toughest soldiers out there we can...
Boddington, I challenge you to find any fault in mine or any other gay soldiers performance. I can shoot, run, ruck, and a thousand other things better than most, perhaps even you, the "paradigm" of masculinity, I'm sure, that you are. So don't talk about tough when you have no sense of the meaning of the word.
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Originally posted by Boddington's
The toughest don't boast.
Why boast when I live it every day?
Why boast when it's the truth?
Sounds arrogant, I know. My point is, I am just as good as any soldier you can find in the armed services. I have pride in my work and in my performance, as do many others in my field-- they are proud to have me by their side, just as I am proud to go to war with the best people I know.
Can you say the same thing?
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"Of course, I realize that others may feel uncomfortable. So what? Unless actual sexual harassment takes place, they need to get over it. "
Agreed, Finkian What you do on your own time is nobody's business but your own. I'm just saying be careful, because there is no need to provoke those louts. Why else would I ask Azazel about intolerance permitted under the guise of tolerance?
Boris, why is loving the sinner and hating the sin a cop-out? People are more than the sum of their actions.
I won't insist that you should change, only you can do that Boris. What I will say is that it is possible, and definately rational, and I'll keep a door open anyways.
As for health consequences- the first is a shorter lifespan, such as dying in your forties. This is a symptom of other problems: promiscuity, which produces STD's; increased incidence of drug abuse and suicide, stemming from the psychological problems some people have with the homosexual lifestyle. For these reasons alone, I would not encourage my children to be gay.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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Originally posted by obiwan18
As for health consequences- the first is a shorter lifespan, such as dying in your forties. This is a symptom of other problems: promiscuity, which produces STD's; increased incidence of drug abuse and suicide, stemming from the psychological problems some people have with the homosexual lifestyle. For these reasons alone, I would not encourage my children to be gay.
While I understand these realities, they have nothing to do with the intrinsic idea of homosexuality itself.
Promiscuity? Teach your kids to respect sex as a healthy, but precious, cherished act, not a cheap time to get off.
Drug abuse? Suicide? Ha. Raise your children so that they WOULDN'T be afraid to be gay, so that they WOULDN'T be ashamed, and raise them to know that you will always accept them.
BTW, you really can't "encourage" someone to be gay. They will, whether you encourage or forbid.
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finkian - he's a troll...don't dwell on his crap"Chegitz, still angry about the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991?
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Boris got off easy with his coming out. Where are the tears? The hard questions? The madonna music?
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Originally posted by orange
finkian - he's a troll...don't dwell on his crap
(gives in to inner shame and psychological dysfunction, flinging himself out a window, while shooting up and scratching the rash caused by the melange of STDs he's contracted)
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