Shakira and her shaking...

[MarkG]

Shakira and her shaking...

nothing wrong with either of them. leave them as they are!

[Solver]

Markos -

[chequita guevara]

They dress that way because their managers make them. If it botheres you, don't look.

There's some new teen-pop idol chick who dresses like a punk. Listen to her if you want.

[monolith94]

You people seem to live in a different world than me...
Ludicrous!

[Swissy]

Yes the music is made to appeal to the 8-16 female who will go out and buy the CD. The sluttieness of dress is aimed at the 13 - 25 male with disposable income who watch music videos. Sleazy videos leads to more of these males watching them and thus draws more advertisers to the networks and websites which show those videos. So again its the old "Sex Sells" routine.

[Solver]

Nature of the beast. Those 13-25 males will rather go to some site and download the video . Or, if they like the song, download the mp3 .

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by Buck Birdseed
Why should it not be okay? Why should we not let people take whatever roles they feel like? Certainly, I detest the preassure present in today's patriarchal culture that makes women want to be commodities, to try to sell themselves and their bodies, but just as awful is the traditional division of women into saints and whores. Let women be who they like and don't judge them by their sexual lives.

Because they are selling their product to children.

We are talking about kids aged 5-17 here. Hardly an age that can comprehend sexual responsibility. But they see Christina hop on some guy and dry hump him and so hey now it's cool to jump on guys and dry hump them.

What they never see are the consequences of those actions. They don't hear about the girls that have to drop out of high school and take care of a baby when they are still babies. They don't see the girl dumping her kid in a dumpster somewhere because she's too scared to be a mommy. They don't see the kid living in poverty because dad was only 15 at the time he was born and was scared so he ran off and won't send in the damn money.

It's all well and good to let people be themselves, but when there are children involved that is just outright irresponsible and ****ed up. This kind of stuff carries serious, life-altering consequences. Responsibilty first. Role independence be DAMNED.

[Dis]

OK let me try to explain this.

Women look up to Shakira just like men look up to guys who are really masculine (I won't use the word sexy because men hate guys like Ricky Martin). Just because they are the same sex doesn't mean there isn't idol worship going on.

Women admire Shakira because she does shake her booty and get all the boys attention. So little girls want to be just like her, and of course they buy her album in this process.

[JimmyCracksCorn]

Who cares?

Shakira and Britney are smokin'!

[chequita guevara]

Smoking what, crack?

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Albert Speer
Black Dragon:

yes I know... all the coochie cutters and ****... but why do these women (or in some cases, girls) who are out in the media all the time and in videos and being idolized by young girls... why do they see the need to dress slutty? Why don't they be a role-model for not being a whore?

Damn straight. They should all where burqa, chador, however you say it in your language of choice.

Ah, so it's the women's fault. "She asked for it, she was dressed like a whore."

Why don't you get your gonads in check, reinstall your patronising chauvanism in the orifice from whence it came, and put the responsibility back on the male gender for it's perceptions and actions.

As far as Shakira goes specifically, her audience in Latinamerica (still her main audience, despite Laundry Service) is primarily adult, not pre-teen girls. People there seem to have enough sense to distiguish between her stage act (which always figured bellydance, since she's half Lebanese arab) and reality of what girls and women choose to wear themselves on an everyday basis, or when they go out to clubs or whatever.

The Cristina Aguilera video was a new low in pop music, but that's a big step out from the general pop scene, or women's actions/dress/behavior in general in the mainstream media.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
They dress that way because their managers make them. If it botheres you, don't look.

There's some new teen-pop idol chick who dresses like a punk. Listen to her if you want.

Avril Lavigne?

But she doesn't count, since she doesn't fit into lil' Albert's troll stereotype. This is all about the patronizing white male gon' protect the little womens from themselves.

[Ted Striker]

I'd have to agree, I think Shakira is fine and what she does on stage is just as harmless as Elvis doing his thing. She's a pretty class act.

It's that damn Christina video specifically that I have a problem with. I know if I had a little girl I would have ALOT to say about that video.

[Shi Huangdi]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
I'd have to agree, I think Shakira is fine and what she does on stage is just as harmless as Elvis doing his thing. She's a pretty class act.

It's that damn Christina video specifically that I have a problem with. I know if I had a little girl I would have ALOT to say about that video.

What the hell did Christina do that was so awful? My pop culture knowledge must be really sucky. Anyway, I agree with MtG, AS is being too patronizing and women are smart enough to be able to make choices for themselves on what to wear.

[Ted Striker]

BD,

The main scene that I have a problem with in that video is when she jumps on this guy and she does a dance where it looks like she is basically ****ing him except they have clothes on (well not much but still some). It is completely obscene. Fine if you are over 21 but inappropriate for kids.

Now obviously she is doing this for a couple of reasons:

1) She wants to prove to everyone she's all "grown up" and not the little Mousketeer anymore
2) She wants to do something outrageous so people will talk about her (the way Madonna like to do shocking things to get publicity)

But I found it tasteless and irresponsible.