Russian Forces Enter Theatre, End Hostage Situation

[GePap]

Originally posted by Sonic


Not only Chechens, Palestinians and many others also. Re-read my previous post please for reasons, also please note that word gunmen is perhaps more "appropriate" to use for independent broadcasting stations, because that fits both opinions (ones who supports independence and ones who are against it), and if broadcasting station truly wants to remain independent in people's eyes it can't bash anything, even obviously bad things.

Oh, don't get me wrong. I have no probem with the terms. i am not someone who wil go into a lather because people I dislike are not defined as i wish them to be defined.

Terrorism is a form of political violence, like war. its a difference in kind:
A soldier is a armed thug given a uniform and validated by a state.
A rebel is an armed thug with a uniform but no state
A guman is an armed thug, that may or may not have a uniform, and no state.
A terrorist is an armed thug that uses violence to 'scare' others into acting how they want them to act (he audience of terrorist violence is never the target of terrorist violence)

Thus a soldier, gunman, or rebel can also be a terrorist.

[Uncle Sparky]

MOBIUS

Geez Sparky...

Shut your cakehole and stop with the verbal diarhoea already - you're stinking up the forum...

You have eyes - use them to R-E-A-D!

I haven't even posted yet !

I think the rescue mission went about as well as could be expected.

But, will the US invade Russia now that they've tipped their hand that they have unknown chemical weapons?
... they have oil, too !

[The Mad Monk]

GePap, are you saying that Connorkimbro is a thug?

[Eli]

(concerning the movie of the Spetznaz guys storming the building)

I'm no spec ops expert... But dont you think they were doing it all way too slowly? They were simply walking in.

[The Mad Monk]

Tripwires, Eli, tripwires...

[Uncle Sparky]

Well, I'm off to a brunch & a matinee ! Wish me luck !

[Hurricane]

Yeah, aren't they supposed to come crashing in from the windows? It's so 20th century to use the door.

[GePap]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk
GePap, are you saying that Connorkimbro is a thug?

In a way , yes. Soldiers are around to be nice to everyone. Calling someone a rofessional thug is not to impune on their personality. Thugs can be nice and gentle people at home and with friends, they just have to be thugs at work.

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by Uncle Sparky
Well, I'm off to a brunch & a matinee ! Wish me luck !

Don't forget your flak jacket and streetsweeper!

[Serb]

Originally posted by Sonic
However, by my description Russian army are also terrorists, because as far as I know they are also intentionally killing lots of civilians in Chechenya...

(I will probably translate and post here an interview with Chechenyan ambassador to Lithuania later)

Yep. Do us a favor. Just when all of you who will read this bull**** and fairytales, remember about one thing- this man who calling himself an “ambassador of Chechnya” is ambassador in “government” which head is Aslan Maskhadov- the men who ordered (and he said it himself to Al-Djazira TV chanel, and terrorist inside theater confirmed that he ordered this) to attack and took civilians including children who caome to see the musical. You just saw this event on your TV. The man who ordered to do this is chief of this so-called ambassador. Their “defense minister” is Shamil Basayev who PERSONALY with his gang, took more then 500 women and JUST BORNED CHILDREN- HOSTAGES when they captured a hospital in Bunedovsk city few years ago. For this act of glorious fight against unbeliever Maskhadov awarded him by special watch. I just saw video how they laughing during award ceremony. More then 100 were killed. This “man” also ordered to blow-up several apartment buildings in Moscow, Pervomaysk and Kyizlyar. Those are their “government”.
NOW THINK TWICE CAN YOU BELIVE A SINGLE WORD OF THOSE PEOPLE OR NOT. AND HOW MUCH THIER FAIRYTALES COST.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk
GePap, are you saying that Connorkimbro is a thug?

Yes, and Lonestar and Midshipman. As GePap writes, however, it doesn't imply anything about their personality. They are all thugs for the US government.

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by GePap


In a way , yes. Soldiers are around to be nice to everyone. Calling someone a rofessional thug is not to impune on their personality. Thugs can be nice and gentle people at home and with friends, they just have to be thugs at work.

I beg to differ.

[Sprayber]

I guess i'm only part time thug these days.

[The Mad Monk]

Would one of you gentlemen look up the definition of thug, please?

[chequita guevara]

The state is nothing but a gang of armed thugs.