Any Christians out there?

[Asher]

Originally posted by JCG
But "Ganesha" would have more mercy over you if you worship a general "God" or Jesus or something else than if you're an atheist....

By similar logic, during wartime if you served as an Allied soldier the Axis forces would have more mercy over you than if you were a neutral civilian...

[loinburger]

Originally posted by JCG
But you can use Pascal's wager as an addition to your own faith, obviously.

Why would you need Pascal's Wager if you've already got faith?

[JCG]

Originally posted by Asher

By similar logic, during wartime if you served as an Allied soldier the Axis forces would have more mercy over you than if you were a neutral civilian...

Good joke, I'll grant you that.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Asher

There is no point to worshipping, Jon. You do it out of habit.

You say this because you have not seen

Jon Miller
(who admits he is not the best of christians)

[Ethelred]

Originally posted by Jon Miller


While I knew what you said to be factually correct, the way you said it was mocking

see
"
Jimmy doesn't know the difference between a person and a title.
"
Jon Miller

He got huffy with me so he should be prepared to get something back in return. A lot of Christians don't know the difference for that matter. The very term Blood of Christ shows that. Its the Blood of Jesus OR THE Christ not simply Christ. Its a title. He stated it like a name.

[JCG]

Originally posted by loinburger

Why would you need Pascal's Wager if you've already got faith?

As an argument when all else fails, I said before it's always a last resort.

[JCG]

Christ comes from the Greek Christus (sp, obviously), which means something like son/envoy of "God". I saw that in a documentary today btw, lol...

[loinburger]

Originally posted by JCG
As an argument when all else fails, I said before it's always a last resort.

Last resort of what? To convert the heathens? The heathens have got doubt (that's why they're heathens), and Pascal's Wager tries to make them believe in God without actually trying to allay their doubt. That's its problem as an argument for why you should believe in God: doubt is the opposite of belief, so attempting to convert somebody without allaying their doubt is an exercise in futility.

[Jon Miller]

I see no reason to use a poor argument

which arguments of last resort always are

Jon Miller

[Asher]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
I see no reason to use a poor argument

which arguments of last resort always are

You mean like "because you have not seen!"?

[Ethelred]

Originally posted by Dan Severn


Yes, a prime example of mockery.

Your posts make me tired.

I don't think Ming would like the appropriate comment to that. So I will just allude to it.

Jimmy Jimmy you so fine
Jimmy Jimmy blow my mind

Only one Jimmy in those lines. The original song wasn't Jimmy. It was a women's name which acounts for some odd conflicts in the song. "Oh Jimmy your so pretty" for instance always struck me as an odd thing for a women to say about a guy. Especially a women past thirty. I think she should have made a few more changes.

I liked it anyway.

I think its

Hey Jimmy your so fine you blow my mind

HEY Jimmy.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Asher

You mean like "because you have not seen!"?

I was merely pointing out that you had no place in saying that I worshpi out of habit when you do not know me

nor do you have any place to say that everyone who does worship does so out of habit (or even that most worship out of habit)

it was not an argument of last resort

it was a poor expression of the rediculousness of your comment (which had no logic or basis to it)

Jon Miller

[Ethelred]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
I know a girl who was known as Joy to the World

I will leave you to guess why

Jon Miller

How about one of the girls( I hesitate to say actresses) in Billy Jack.

Joy Bang

[loinburger]

Hey Jimmy you're so fine you're so find you blow my mind

Hey Jimmy

(The version I've always heard is a man singing a woman's name, I didn't know that the original was a woman singing about Jimmy...)

[Asher]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
it was a poor expression of the rediculousness of your comment (which had no logic or basis to it)

Am I the only one who sees the irony of a proponent of religion criticizing other people's arguments for having no logic or basis to it?