Any Christians out there?

[Jon Miller]

hopefully

but I suspect not

(you don't see the rediculousness of you saying putting down worship by saying everybody who does so does so out of habit?)

I would expect you to have learned decent discussion abilities in some poiint of your life

Jon Miller

[Ethelred]

Originally posted by JCG
Yawn...there's always Pascal's Wager as a last resort, you know, for some people...

Pascal's Fraud.

I have a hard time thinking that someone so good at logic could have failed to notice the flaws in his argument. Belief sometimes overcomes reason I guess.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
(you don't see the rediculousness of you saying putting down worship by saying everybody who does so does so out of habit?)

Not everybody.
Just most.

There is zero logical reason to worship. Zero. None. Nadda.

The closest thing you have is Pascal's Wager, which doesn't work.

Most people who do worship do so because they seek the comfort of reminding themselves that God is looking after them, that there is an afterlife, that sort of thing -- or because they do it plain out of habit.

[JCG]

Originally posted by loinburger
Last resort of what? To convert the heathens?

Me? Convert heathens? Convert heathens to what?

Seriously though, that's not why I mentioned it. Just throwing an idea into the discussion.

And yes, it's a poor argument, which means I probably should have know better than that. Just don't take it so seriously, have an ice day.

[Dan Severn]

Originally posted by Ethelred


I don't think Ming would like the appropriate comment to that. So I will just allude to it.

I was refering to Jimmy's posts, not yours. But if you feel the need to be put upon,

Neener neener neener

[MrFun]

For some odd reason, Apolyton atheists complain about aggressive Christians, but then I think I have seen more trolls started by atheists here against Christians, than vice versa.

But other times, there has been civil, intelligent comments made by atheists when in dialogue with Apolyton Christians and vice versa.

[Asher]

Originally posted by MrFun
For some odd reason, Apolyton atheists complain about aggressive Christians, but then I think I have seen more trolls started by atheists here against Christians, than vice versa.

That might have been true before this troll right there.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Asher

Not everybody.
Just most.

There is zero logical reason to worship. Zero. None. Nadda.

The closest thing you have is Pascal's Wager, which doesn't work.

Most people who do worship do so because they seek the comfort of reminding themselves that God is looking after them, that there is an afterlife, that sort of thing -- or because they do it plain out of habit.

you are basing your argument on your postition

very bad practice

Jon Miller

[JCG]

Originally posted by Ethelred
Pascal's Fraud.

I have a hard time thinking that someone so good at logic could have failed to notice the flaws in his argument. Belief sometimes overcomes reason I guess.

That's right, certainly it has many flaws. But then again you could say the same thing about the abscence of belief (or hatred of beliefs in general) clouding reason, which is also a distinct possibility (even if an unlikely one, I know).

[Asher]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
you are basing your argument on your postition

very bad practice

Jon Miller

I'm basing it on reality, Jon.

In your own words, you're basing yours own your capability to "imagine", which doesn't bode well for how true it actually is, does it?

[Ethelred]

Originally posted by loinburger
Hey Jimmy you're so fine you're so find you blow my mind

Hey Jimmy

(The version I've always heard is a man singing a woman's name, I didn't know that the original was a woman singing about Jimmy...)

Its not. That is the original you are hearing.

However there was really good and popular video where it was changed into a cheerleeding routine by Tony Basil who also sang it. She also choreographed some really funny dances for Saturday Night Live. The one that comes to mind is the four ballerinas and the four male street dancers in a parody-homage to Swan Lake.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Asher

I'm basing it on reality, Jon.

In your own words, you're basing yours own your capability to "imagine", which doesn't bode well for how true it actually is, does it?

no

I juat do not throw away a position unless I am sure I can

it makes me more open minded

I need to sleep now, since I have a early morning tomorrow

night all (I will check a few other threads first)

Jon Miller

[connorkimbro]

I don't believe in christians.

[Ethelred]

Originally posted by Dan Severn


I was refering to Jimmy's posts, not yours. But if you feel the need to be put upon,

Neener neener neener

I didn't care. It was ambigous. I wanted to say something funny. I plead the Fifth.


Some Senator or other:
Please state your name for the record Mr. Gambino

Some Mafioso I have chosen to call Gambino:
I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that it may tend to incriminate me.


So maybe it wasn't Gambino. It was some Mafia member. I wonder just how bad you have to be to find your own name to be possibly incriminating.

[loinburger]

Originally posted by MrFun
For some odd reason, Apolyton atheists complain about aggressive Christians, but then I think I have seen more trolls started by atheists here against Christians, than vice versa.

I could have sworn that it was a Christian that started this thread, not an atheist...

Run a search for old religious troll threads, you'll find that almost all of them were started by Christians. My favorite was "The Evangelical Atheist," in which the thread starter basically started a religious troll thread in which he complained that atheists start too many religious troll threads or something. Good times.