Any Christians out there?

[Dan Severn]

Originally posted by Ethelred


Now that is closer to mocking. Learn the difference Jimmy and John.

Of course it is concievable. If Dan can think of then your idea of god could think of it.

Yes, a prime example of mockery.

Your posts make me tired.


Jimmy Jimmy you so fine
Jimmy Jimmy blow my mind

[Asher]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
I would have used comperhending (spelling?)

but I was not sure if you would be touchy about that

JOn Miller

I comprehend and can "imagine" it just fine, the problem I have is it not only doesn't make sense, but there's hundreds of conflicting religions out there each insisting they're correct, and there is no way to ensure there is a God or an afterlife.

Therefore, I'm not going to waste time and energy worshipping any God, I'm going to live my life expecting there to be no afterlife, and if there is an afterlife, it's just extra innings as far as I'm concerned.

I don't need religion, I don't want religion, I don't need faith, I don't want faith. It's my life, I'll live it how I want to.

[Dan Severn]

Originally posted by loinburger


This was in response to Jimmy's "Okay, Ethel doesn't know anything about [the blood of Christ]." *** for tat, he who lives in a glass house, and all that jazz.

People in grass houses should not throw spears.

neener neener neener

[Capt Dizle]

Worship is fellowship with God. Worship is joy.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by loinburger


What is worthy of worship, and why? For that matter, what is worship?

To regard with ardent or adoring esteem or devotion
honor and love
Ardent devotion; adoration
worthiness, honor
To respect; to honor; to treat with civil reverence
Excellence of character; dignity; worth; worthiness.
Honor; respect; civil deference.
reverence and homage; adoration, or acts of reverence
To perform acts of homage or adoration
a feeling of profound love and admiration
love unquestioningly and uncritically


Jon Miller

[Asher]

Originally posted by jimmytrick
Worship is fellowship with God. Worship is joy.

Joy is sex with an 18-year old virgin on a deserted tropical beach.

Worship is tedious.

[loinburger]

Yes, Jon, I know how to use the dictionary too. I wanted your definition, what it means to you.

Also, the questions "What is worthy of worship" and "Why is it worthy of worship" are far more important.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Asher

No one is deserving of worship, it's a pointless exercise that tends to only annoy the person being worshipped unless they have a fragile ego and low self esteem...

this is where I said you were having issues with imagining

look especially at the first 6 words

Jon Miller

[Capt Dizle]

Who is worthy of worship is a better question.

[Ethelred]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
Salvation is a free gift to everyone

it is up to them if they accept it

Jon Miller

Its up to Jehovah to make it believable. The Bible simply isn't believable except to people that allready believe. I see no reason except wishfull thinking to believe in the Bible.

I don't accept a lot of things on the simple grounds that they are in conflict with the world around us. If I was credulous enough to believe the Bible there are quite a few other religions and beliefs that are no more incredible. How would I know which of the many beliefs that clearly conflict with reality I should consider the right one. I choose one less incredible belief than you do John.

Its not up to me to accept stuff that I have no reason to believe is accurate. Its up to those that come up with a religion to make it believable.

Salvation is only a gift if it is real. I see no reason at all besides wishfull thinking to believe it.

[Dan Severn]

Originally posted by Asher

Joy is sex with an 18-year old virgin on a deserted tropical beach.

I know a girl named Joy.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
this is where I said you were having issues with imagining

look especially at the first 6 words

Jon Miller

No one is deserving of worship, Jon. Perhaps I just have higher standards than you.

Teenage girls worship Justin Timberlake, Christians worship God, I worship no one.

Maybe you just have difficulty imagining that.

[Jon Miller]

I know a girl who was known as Joy to the World

I will leave you to guess why

Jon Miller

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Tuberski


But, on the other hand, if you believe in God, those techniques were created by God.

Exactly -- God gave Jesus Christ the most powerful form of chakra than any other person could have possessed.
But for me, God did not create the universe, nor did he create life -- however, he gave humans the gift of being able to have a spirit or soul within us -- no other creature has a spirit or soul (my belief, anyway).


And Asher, I could not tell if you were trying to start a troll chain, or if you really do have a legitimate curiousity about how people can have such diverse beliefs, and believe theirs is the true way.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Asher

No one is deserving of worship, Jon. Perhaps I just have higher standards than you.

Teenage girls worship Justin Timberlake, Christians worship God, I worship no one.

Maybe you just have difficulty imagining that.

so you can imagine no being worthy of worship?

that is why I am saying you are having issues with imagining

I can imagine people having difficulties with imagination just fine, thanks

Jon Miller