This Is the Kind of Crap that Pisses Me Off

[Carver]

Originally posted by moomin


Great! Now that we have established this principle, I'm sure you'll agree we need to kick out all the black thieves who have stolen welfare money from European taxpayers. Back to Africa with all of them, and their kids (since you've established that sins of the fathers should be visited on the children as well). Any blacks who legitimately came to Europe and paid their own way by work without ever recieving any welfare money can stay, of course.

Recieving government benefits is not theft. If you disagree with a governmet's social-welafre policies you need to take that up with the legislature.

And what of the white welfare reciepients, who are the majority of welfare reciepients in the US?

And Mugabe is not deporting white people, he is simply making them give up their ill gotten properties.

[Ramo]

Blacks are good workers in my opinion, but bad chiefs. If someone else controls them (USA in early XIX age, South Africa until the black revolution), country lives good. If, however, leaders are also blacks, everything turns bad.

Wow, I've never seen a more idiotic or racist statement on 'Poly before. Congrats.

[Chris 62]

Amazing thread, really.

Crusaders everywhere, waving flags of discontent.

It's their country, they can decide what to do with it, but trying to say punishing someone today for what an ancestor did is as hateful as it is stupid.
As I recall, Mugabee once promised the white farmers would never be disturbed, now for the sake of cronism that promise is voided.
It's up to the people there to speak on this, and believe it or not, whites should have rights in black nations, just as blacks should in white nations.
It seems that some people here think whites should be run out of Africa forever, and that is just as wrong as saying a Chinaman doesn't belong in Europe, or a Blackman in South America.

To argue otherwise is foolish in the extreme.

[Sava]

you guys need to shut it, seriously.... instead of saying how the centuries of European colonization, slave trade, and imperialism is wrong, you complain about a bunch of white farmers... the native Africans should kick them off the damn continent...

[Kropotkin]

Sonic:

Jaakko, you just shown that you actually know nothing in both geography and history[...] So, Lithuania had more influence to the history than Finland (if we consider that Vikings were not only Finnish but also Swedish, Norge).

Finns where not vikings, I think you just showed that you know nothing about geography and history.

Next time you'll make such a racistic argument please read history book and geographical atlas.

You mean a racist argument like this one:

Blacks are good workers in my opinion, but bad chiefs.

Maybe you should leave your national complex against your big neighbour and your racist attitude or leave us grown ups have our debates in peace.

[Sonic]

I know Vkings were not Finnish, I said what I said just because I thought Jakko would have argued about Scandinavian influence, not about Finnish influence. And I agree Scandinavian influence was bigger than Lithuanian.

Yes, there are some rich blacks, but if we'd compare the number of rich whites with number of rich blacks, we'd see the difference (and the numbers of blacks and whites in the world are not so different). Most of rich blacks lives in white-ruled countries by the way.

I don't have anything against blacks really, I am discussing this because I am annoyed by such people, who thinks blacks not only should have equal rights, but also more rights than whites. I know if something like there is in Zimbabwe would be done against blacks in some white country, you'd be the first to protest.

I know not everything about black history (nobody knows everything in fact), yes, but I think I know enough to discuss about it. From politics history I know the most on Israel/Palestine dispute, but since there weren't such threads for quite a long time, I decided to discuss here .

By the way, David Duke's site is a quality site. You can agree or disagree with what he says obviously, but I seriously doubt facts he says are made up. His site is not full of some insults and hatred like some sites are ( http://www.kukluxklan.net for example).

[Chris 62]

David Duke?

The KKK grand wizard?

I'm sure his site is totally factual.

[Ramo]

I don't have anything against blacks really,

Of course not. You just think a country is better off if blacks are slaves.

I know if something like there is in Zimbabwe would be done against blacks in some white country, you'd be the first to protest.

Of course, just about everyone on this thread disagrees with what Mugabe is doing...

By the way, David Duke's site is a quality site.

Egads, man. I asked you if you got your statistics from David Duke's web site as a jest.

[Sonic]

No, I DON'T think blacks should be enslaved. I even agree that they should have rights to be elected to parliament/presidents seats. But when country is ruled (more than 60% of government) by blacks it isn't good in my opinion. And this is based on facts. I won't repeat myself, re-read what i claimed in first posts. It is strange when some people thinks there could be only two solutions - either blacks enslaved, either they ruling country. As US example showns, there could be other solutions also. I think US laws about blacks are quite good except at a few places (too lazy to post everything up now, if you really want that I could post though).

BTW, I think Duke's site's facts aren't made up, in most places links are provided. Chris, why do (and many people) think that if person once was KKK member (he isn't anymore), he is a total stupid and he can't even post true facts anymore? Yes, some sites are total blame, but Duke's one isn't. The same you can find on fact based communist, fascist and other sites. For example, in communist site based on true facts youcould see comparing which would show that in USA there was much more people living poorly than in Soviet Union at a time (which would be true), etc. There wouldn't obviously be stated in such site that Stalin killed and exiled many people, that Soviet government used huge propaganda machine. But statistics taht would be given would be true. So the same is with the Duke's site. Don't think democracy beats all other forms of government everywhere (no, I am NOT a fascist neither commie). There are also some qualities in fascism, communism, fundamentalism, authoritarism, etc. Just there are much more flaws in those governments. But if I'd now had to do some pro-Hussein website for example, I'd still found some facts where Iraq would shown better than USA.

[TheStinger]

Sonic

You are racist if you think that different temprements can be seen just by the colour of your skin.

That is what racism is, you are a racist

[Kropotkin]

Originally posted by Sonic
No, I DON'T think blacks should be enslaved. I even agree that they should have rights to be elected to parliament/presidents seats. But when country is ruled (more than 60% of government) by blacks it isn't good in my opinion. And this is based on facts

Oh you're such a liberal pinko!

[Dr Strangelove]

I think that sanctions should be lifted against Mugabe, not because his policies should be endorsed, but because we don't want him to be able to blame the US and the EU when his policies fail and his country faces mass starvation. Eventually he will be discredited. In the meantime I think that the UK is obligated to give refuge to the whites of Zimbabwe. Likewise I think that the UK and the Netherlands should take back the descendants of their respective settlers in South Africa.

[Chris 62]

Duke is still as much Klan as ever, he just hides the sheet now, bad looking at elections.

[joseph1944]

I will read the thread later. I think the country will not eat after a while.

[Jaakko]

I know Vkings were not Finnish, I said what I said just because I thought Jakko would have argued about Scandinavian influence, not about Finnish influence. And I agree Scandinavian influence was bigger than Lithuanian.

What the hell are you talking about Sonic? Do you have some imaginary version of me you're arguing with?