This Is the Kind of Crap that Pisses Me Off

[Carver]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

To David Floyd and the other neo-nazis

You are an utter moron. I guess you'll be going back to Europe then? After all, haven't you recieved or purchased stolen property?

I'm part Native American so I can stay.

Regardless, the numbers of people involved simply dont justify wholesale redistribution in the US as they do in Zim.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Carver


No, the low lifes were the Israeli technicians who helped South Africa with its nuclear weapons programs and conventional weapons programs such as the Atlas Cheetah/IAI Kfir fighter aircraft. Fortunately, the Israel-South Africa racist axis has been broken.

Where were the B-52s when that weapons of mass destruction program was going on? Nowhere, the US even supplied South Africa with uranium for about 10 years.

hi ,

actually you have to blame the belgians for that , union minieré , .....

btw , the rest is also wrong , .....

have a nice night

[Carver]

Originally posted by panag


hi ,

sorry , but that is not what what shown today on bbc world , ......

there a guy who bought land and a farm , one in 1989 , and one in 1993 , is being put out of his house , .......

But was it stolen property when he purchased it?

btw , could you please not use some "personal" insults , we are all adults here , no need to call some people "n-n", thanks

have a nice day / night

That comment was mostly directed at David. I certainly wasn't referring to you. Sorry for the confusion.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Carver


I'm part Native American so I can stay.

hi ,

intresting , so mugabe hates the yanks , and a whole bunch of others , but he loves native yanks , intresting , .....

have a nice day

[Panag]

Originally posted by Carver


But was it stolen property when he purchased it?



That comment was mostly directed at David. I certainly wasn't referring to you. Sorry for the confusion.

hi ,

nope it was not stolen
they showed all the (original) paperwork

two ; you should not be calling anyone that name , ....
its a bit to personal

have a nice day

[Carver]

Originally posted by panag


hi ,

actually you have to blame the belgians for that , union minieré , .....

btw , the rest is also wrong , .....

have a nice night

You seem like you know the Israeli military. Are you going to honestly deny the intense and well documented Israeli/South African military cooperation. The IAI Kfir and Atlas Cheetah are basically the same plane. They're both upgraded versions of the Mirage 3. It is well known that Israel and South Africa developed nuclear weapons together and conducted a joint test off of a South African island in the Indian Ocean.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Carver


You seem like you know the Israeli military. Are you going to honestly deny the intense and well documented Israeli/South African military cooperation. The IAI Kfir and Atlas Cheetah are basically the same plane. They're both upgraded versions of the Mirage 3. It is well known that Israel and South Africa developed nuclear weapons together and conducted a joint test off of a South African island in the Indian Ocean.

hi ,

bump , ....

there was no blast , its just a rumour , .....
even greenpeace confirmed it , when they took soil samples , .....

gues you never heard about wouter bason and the belgian link , and mugabe neither , .....

and actually the SA did very good on their upgrades , they where and are not stupid , ....afterall it aint hard , you just take the part you need , and make it , ....any country with an engineer in metals can do it , .....the rest was feedback from their pilots , ...

have a nice night

[Imran Siddiqui]

Regardless, the numbers of people involved simply dont justify wholesale redistribution in the US as they do in Zim.

So the law only applies when there are a few people for it to apply too?

All land EVERYWHERE has been stolen by someone. Then again, since additions by warfare are not recognized as theft, no white has stolen any land in Zimbabwe in this case (same goes for Americans and natives) .

And since you are only PART native, that means the rest of you will have to leave.

[Sonic]

I am already seeing messages claiming that I am neo-nazi

I don't know why but it is true that blacks can't govern countries efficiently. There is no rich country ruled by blacks anywhere in the world. Some of African countries were rich under white, colonial rule and now virtually all of them are economically destroyed. In South Africa when whites were kicked out of power everything also just got worse. In north Africa, where whiter people are living situation is a bit better. You can say it's all not because the race, but because of distance from equator (climate), but it also won't be true because some South American countries are on/near equator and yet they are living better than black Africa countries. Also, don't say Africa is bad because whites were occupied it. WHites were also occupied Asia, where Asians lives, but look now to for example Singapore. When British troops left, Ghana's GNP per capita was larger than Singapore's for example. Compare those GNPs now. Again, I am not saying all white-controlled and Asian-controlled countries are good. I am however saying all black countries are bad (say an example of goodly managed black country instead of calling me neo-nazi please). History also proves my words. There were huge empires with huge influence in Europe (British, French, Spanish, Dutch), Asia (Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Indian), Middle East (Israeli, Arab, Persian, Messopotamian), North (white) Africa (Egypt). But there were no such empires in Africa (I know Zululand but they did almost no influence and they conquered people around them only because those people were also in the same technology level as Zulus themselves). The case is by the way not only with blacks, but also (for a lower extent) with native Americans (Aztec, Mayan, Incan empires - all were great, but easily defeated by Europeans) and Australian Aborigenoes. So, I think races are equal only on paper. In fact they differs much. You can say empires didn't evolved in America, Australia and Africa because there were not much competition, but there were no competition in Europe and Asia at first also. But here empires did evolved. Also, blacks even in first world countries, like USA, are ussually living poorer than whites, even if everything is equal here, even blacks are sometimes prefered over whites to work only to meet racial balance not because of qualities, also public schools funded by budget are mostly full of blacks (98% of students at some public schools in USA are black for example). White kids ussually goes to private schools. Also, blacks does much more crimes than whites in USA (I had official statistics somewhere, I don't remember quite correctly now but it seems blacks does about 70% rapes and murders for example, even if black population percent in USA is quite low)

BTW, no I don't hate blacks all things I said before were based on facts. I however agree that whites made a mistake by conquering Africa (and later estabilishing nonsensional border between colonies, which aren't borders between ethnical groups. This move made most of curent African countries to go to civil wars), but I don't think it should be repaid by aids and also Africa shouldn't be reconquered, this is quite stupid. I think the best think we can do to Africa is to let them go back to their own life. This means cutting them from all aid (except maybe for some good-managed democratic countries) because in totalitarian regimes most of aid still goes to military. Also we shouldn't limit them.

OK, I am now ready to take flames

Regards,

[Imran Siddiqui]

But there were no such empires in Africa

So what the Hell was the Empire of Mali and Songhai?

[Carver]

Originally posted by Sonic
I don't know why but it is true that blacks can't govern countries efficiently. There is no rich country ruled by blacks anywhere in the world. Some of African countries were rich under white, colonial rule and now virtually all of them are economically destroyed.

What? No. they were never what we would call rich.

In South Africa when whites were kicked out of power everything also just got worse.

What got worse? All of the problems you hear about were there during apartheid they just didn't effect the whites much and the apartheid gov't impeaded the foreign press from covering conditions in the black areas.

I am however saying all black countries are bad (say an example of goodly managed black country instead of calling me neo-nazi please).

Your ignorance betrays you. I already have but... Ghana and Uganda have been the darlings of the IMF and World Bank for more than a decade. Mozambique is a democracy experiencing 8-15% economic growth in recent years. Botswana has never veered from democracy and has recorded solid economic growth since independence in the 60s. Kenya, Gabon, Cameroon, Senegal all have good good governments making economic progress. The Bahamas and Jamaica are both well governed.

But there were no such empires in Africa (I know Zululand but they did almost no influence and they conquered people around them only because those people were also in the same technology level as Zulus themselves).

The Zulu were amongst the least of African empires. Ghana, Mali and Songhai in west Africa were quite powerful and rich (enough to effect gold prices in the middle east). Ethiopia has a long and proud history, its one of the oldest countries in the world. The Hausa city states, the military campaigns of Usman dan Fodio, Monomutapa, the Benin Empire, Kongo...

even blacks are sometimes prefered over whites to work only to meet racial balance

and sometimes they're just better

This means cutting them from all aid (except maybe for some good-managed democratic countries) because in totalitarian regimes most of aid still goes to military.

What, do you think western nations give aid to be nice. The US has given aid to prop up governments that were anti-communist, regardless of what their internal policies were. France gives aid to prop up regimes that allow French companies free access to African natural resources.


You obviously know nothing of Africa other than famine and HIV. Learn what you're talking about before you post.

P.S. What friggin "aid" does Lithuania send to Africa?

[moomin]

Originally posted by Carver
In every nation I can think of it is illegal to recieve or purchase stolen property. Thus, not only are the original white thieves of the land guilty but the second gerantion is guilty for buying or recieving the property and the third, etc. The white landowners who puchased thier property after 1980 are not being touched.

Great! Now that we have established this principle, I'm sure you'll agree we need to kick out all the black thieves who have stolen welfare money from European taxpayers. Back to Africa with all of them, and their kids (since you've established that sins of the fathers should be visited on the children as well). Any blacks who legitimately came to Europe and paid their own way by work without ever recieving any welfare money can stay, of course.

You know, somehow it's uncanny how you've managed to align yourself with the very neo-nazi you decry on this issue. Must be a freaking co-incidence.

[Ramo]

The case is by the way not only with blacks, but also (for a lower extent) with native Americans (Aztec, Mayan, Incan empires - all were great, but easily defeated by Europeans) and Australian Aborigenoes.

The technological disparities between Eurasia and sub-Saharan Africa, the Americas, or Australia can easily be explained by the large delay the latter areas had in getting comparable amounts and quality of domesticatable plants and animals, the fundamental elements of civilization.

If you look at the world 4000 years ago, the major areas of civilization were in the Indus, the Nile, and the Tigris and Euphrates. Europe, comparably, was a total economic backwater. Does this imply that Europeans are inferior to Indians, Egytians, or Mesopatamians?

Also, blacks even in first world countries, like USA, are ussually living poorer than whites

Of course this possibly cannot be attributed to racism or societal handicaps (for instance, the tendency of blacks to have more children than whites), since that would conflict with your idiotic bigotted views.

also public schools funded by budget are mostly full of blacks (98% of students at some public schools in USA are black for example). White kids ussually goes to private schools. Also, blacks does much more crimes than whites in USA

Gee, I wonder if this might not be due to the economic disparities.

(I had official statistics somewhere, I don't remember quite correctly now but it seems blacks does about 70% rapes and murders for example, even if black population percent in USA is quite low)

Where did you get these "official" statistics? From David Duke's web site? This statistic is qute clearly full of crap.

BTW, no I don't hate blacks all things I said before were based on facts.

but I don't think it should be repaid by aids

What aids? Whatever miniscule aids actually going to the African people are negated by trade barriers and subsidies (particularly agricultural) from developed nations, and then some.

The Zulu were amongst the least of African empires. Ghana, Mali and Songhai in west Africa were quite powerful and rich (enough to effect gold prices in the middle east). Ethiopia has a long and proud history, its one of the oldest countries in the world. The Hausa city states, the military campaigns of Usman dan Fodio, Monomutapa, the Benin Empire, Kongo...

You forgot the Ashanti, Dahomey, and Zanj.

Great! Now that we have established this principle, I'm sure you'll agree we need to kick out all the blacks thieves who have stolen welfare money from European taxpayers. Back to Africa with all of them, and their kids (since you've established that sins of the father's should be visited on the children as well). Any blacks who legitimately came to Europe and payed their own way by work without ever recieving any welfare money can stay, of course.

Surely you can see the distinction between redistributing stolen lands that virutally make a person a feudal lord, and deporting welfare recipients.

Not to say I agree with Mugabe's policies, but the principle of land reform in Zimbabwe is perfectly valid.

[moomin]

dp

[Ramo]

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