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  • Originally posted by Ramo
    No one's saying any such thing. However, non-blacks act no different under the same circumstances.
    Surely there are more whites than blacks living in poor conditions in the US, whites being the majority.
    ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
    ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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    • Blacks tend to also live in urban areas, which disproportionately increases blacks' crime rates...
      "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
      -Bokonon

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      • Originally posted by Ramo
        Blacks tend to also live in urban areas, which disproportionately increases blacks' crime rates...
        Are there more blacks living in urban areas than whites? Not from what I have seen here in NYC.
        ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
        ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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        • The federal census data says there are more whites living in poverty then blacks. Of course many poor whites live in rural areas while most poor blacks live in urban areas (at least outside of the south) so the satistics will show a slight scew. However, I don't believe we can explain this simply by saying they are poor and disadvantaged. I would say black culture has something to do with this especially the glorification of violence in black music and the acceptence of children born out of wed-lock.
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          • Blaming it entirely on *circumstances beyond their control* means you think they are not responsible for their actions.
            ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
            ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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            • Originally posted by Caligastia


              Blaming it entirely on *circumstances beyond their control* means you think they are not responsible for their actions.
              Explaining socio-economic trends is not synonomous with validating anti-social activities. No one has said a murderer is not responsible for his murder. What has been said is that being black does not cause someone to committ a murder. Do I need to go slower?

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              • Originally posted by Oerdin
                I don't believe we can explain this simply by saying they are poor and disadvantaged. I would say black culture has something to do with this especially the glorification of violence in black music and the acceptence of children born out of wed-lock.
                Where the later in many ways is the result of the former...

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                • Originally posted by Arrian


                  What was the reason for no longer offering such compensation, then?
                  AFAIK, they still are. I can't seem to find verifacation one way or the other.

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                  • Originally posted by Oerdin
                    I would say black culture has something to do with this especially the glorification of violence in black music and the acceptence of children born out of wed-lock.
                    This doesn't really exist. Most Black music has nothing to do with violence, and the music that does glorify violence is produced largely for a white audience. The acceptance of children born out of wedlock is another myth. Whites are more likely to have children out of wedlock than Blacks as a percentage of their own groups, and not just sheer numbers. However, because Black poverty is concentrated and white poverty is not, it makes it much easier to stereotype this as being a Black problem.
                    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                    • well if you look at rock music it's not full of "family values" either

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                      • What?! Paiktis, you mean you wouldn't want your children to grow up behaving like Marilyn Manson?
                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                          What?! Paiktis, you mean you wouldn't want your children to grow up behaving like Marilyn Manson?
                          I'll be terribly disappointed if they don't.
                          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                          • No, not really. Does that make me a conservative Imran

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                            • double post
                              A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                              • Some of the racist garbage being spewed on here is disgusting.



                                I have a question. What is the history behind the statute law that prohibits recovery of property that was stolen from one group of ancestors by another group of ancestors??

                                Was there some kind of precedent where people realized this statute law needed to be enacted??

                                Was it enacted by white Europeans because they knew they would have to cover their asses with this convenient technicality they conjured up??



                                Africa never belonged to white Europeans or their descendants. It belonged to the hundreds of different ethnic groups that already live there.

                                In fact, I wonder how prevelant racism is among white South African farmers TODAY.
                                A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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