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  • Originally posted by Serb



    It is not a sign of weakness. I suppose you gain a couple of lessons after Vietnam.
    I guess you didn't know the Aussies were in Vietnam, and the South Koreans sent 200,000 soldiers. Not to mention the Thai's and south vietmese. Sounds like a coalition to me!

    Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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    • Originally posted by faded glory
      hre I pulled this link up about the performance of the mighty, Ruskie trained Iraqi airforce.

      WTF? Did you read this article?
      Where in this article a single word about superiority of coalition planes?
      The main point of this article is that Iraq's pilots were poorly trained because of Saddam.
      Few quotes from YOUR article-
      The IQAF's fourth-rate performance suggests that it was unable, unwilling, or not allowed to fight. The reality is a hybrid of all three hypotheses, and each can be traced to the same root cause: Saddam's concerns about security and associated military policies.
      For Saddam Hussein and the IQAF, two lessons of the Gulf war should stand out above all others. First, war is the province of professional soldiers. The Vietnam War, Saddam believed, taught that Americans would never again tolerate a prolonged or costly conflict. He ignored a lesson that American commanders had learned all too well: the chief executive's office is a poor place from which to plan and direct a battle. Thus, while President George Bush vowed that American forces would never again be committed to battle "with one hand tied behind their back,"86 President Saddam sent his forces into the fray virtually bound, gagged, deaf, dumb, and blind.
      Second, just having an air force isn't enough. On paper, the IQAF looked formidable indeed--both in terms of personnel and modern equipment. That qualitative and quantitative advantage might have been sufficient to prevent an Iranian victory in the 1980s, but against the coalition air forces the IQAF could offer little more than token resistance. A painfully obvious lesson of twentieth-century warfare, proven time and again, is that modern weapons are a waste of resources without operators who are willing and able to use them. Saddam serenely defied the lessons of history, and Iraq paid the price for his ignorance. Therefore, if the Gulf war was truly won in the air, the outcome was decided long before the first shot was fired, for Saddam Hussein did more damage to the Iraqi air force than did 2,000 coalition sorties a day.

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      • Originally posted by Chris 62
        Your rapidly moving to my stupid son of a b1tch catigory.
        How old are you, 7 or 8?

        Since you like fun and games, Russian equipment is still first class junk, and only a loser would support it.

        Sleep tight.
        Thanks for kind words. No, I'm alittle older then you think.
        But, you don't answer my question. As far as I know by our laws contacts of military personel with foreign reporters are restricted. Who were those people you interviewed?
        And as you see I'm already awaken. Want another round?

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        • Everybody needs to chill... the next personal insult is sending somebody to Mingapulco
          Keep on Civin'
          RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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          • Ming,
            Enlighten me about this mysterious Mingapulco please. Where is it? You give tickets there for free? Am I the candidate for trip in Mingapulco?

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            • WWI:

              Fokker DVII - German

              SPAD - Allied

              WW II:

              BF 109 series - Axis

              P51 Mustang - Allied
              Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

              Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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              • Originally posted by Serb
                Ming,
                Enlighten me about this mysterious Mingapulco please. Where is it? You give tickets there for free? Am I the candidate for trip in Mingapulco?
                The next time you make a personal insult against somebody, you will find out
                Keep on Civin'
                RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                • serb


                  You gonna respond to my response to your "Coalitions-learned something from vietnam comment"?

                  Yes, I know that sentence made no sense. I'm tired.
                  Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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                  • Everybody may continue the list of planes, but the proper answer on question-“ The Most Dominating Aircraft Ever?” is NONE. There was no absolutely dominating aircraft, never was.

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                    • Originally posted by Ming


                      The next time you make a personal insult against somebody, you will find out
                      As for me, I think I'm losing on personal insults account on this thread to Chris62. Serb, stop being an Ass..... Your rapidly moving to my stupid son of a b1tch catigory. But nothing is lost. I’m worked on it, perhaps I’ll respond to him in the same way later. Is Mingapulco a cool place?

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                      • Originally posted by Serb

                        As for me, I think I'm losing on personal insults account on this thread to Chris62. Serb, stop being an Ass..... Your rapidly moving to my stupid son of a b1tch catigory. But nothing is lost. I’m worked on it, perhaps I’ll respond to him in the same way later. Is Mingapulco a cool place?
                        No. Go to Acapulco. Much nicer.
                        Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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                        • I wonder if the Mingapulo threat works on Siberians. It's like telling somebody in San Quentin he shouldn't do that or else they'll take him to the county jail.

                          But as for most dominating, I kind of agree with Jack, the Zeppelin is a good call. It's more psychological than anything else though. Although psychological intimidation would include any modern NATO design.
                          John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                          • Originally posted by Lonestar
                            serb


                            You gonna respond to my response to your "Coalitions-learned something from vietnam comment"?

                            Yes, I know that sentence made no sense. I'm tired.
                            I know that you were not alone in Vietnam.
                            When I said that you gained a couple of lessons I’ve mean that now before you engage in war with somebody, you’ll prepare your public opinion that this war is unavoidable and that you gonna do a right thing and that everybody support you in your actions. This is how it was in Yugoslavia when your media started a huge propaganda campaign vs. Serbs. This is what happen now when you gonna go to Iraq.
                            Btw, you didn’t answer my question when you saw the show about full automatic landing. But this is unimportant it is not necessary to answer this question.

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                            • Originally posted by Lonestar


                              No. Go to Acapulco. Much nicer.
                              Did you was in both Acapulco and Mingapulco? What the difference between them? I’ve just never heard about Mingapulco, enlighten Siberian uninformed guy about this mysterious place please. I don’t think I’m gonna like this place, I don’t know why, but I have bad feelings about it.

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                              • Originally posted by Serb
                                I’ve just never heard about Mingapulco, enlighten Siberian uninformed guy about this mysterious place please.
                                Mingapulco is just like Serbia was under Stalin. Its a gulag.
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