The Most Dominating Aircraft Ever?

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Serb

This is how it was in Yugoslavia when your media started a huge propaganda campaign vs. Serbs.

You don't know that much about American Media, do you?
B!tching about the way our leaders run things is the national sport.

This is what happen now when you gonna go to Iraq.

Don't think the American people are going to need the media to get angry. In fact, our illustrious leaders should be worried that the American People don't lynch them from the nearest streetlight if they don't come up with OBL soon. I gues they think Saddam Hussien is a good substitute

Btw, you didn’t answer my question when you saw the show about full automatic landing. But this is unimportant it is not necessary to answer this question.

Who did what to the How now?

[faded glory]

Originally posted by DinoDoc


Mingapulco is just like Serbia was under Stalin. Its a gulag.

huh? Stalin ruled Serbia?

[Ming]

Originally posted by faded glory
huh? Stalin ruled Serbia?

I hope he meant Siberia

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by faded glory
huh? Stalin ruled Serbia?

Who cares! Replace the word Stalin in my sentence with whoever had the habit of shipping people to gulags in Siberia.

[faded glory]

Originally posted by DinoDoc


Who cares! Replace the word Stalin in my sentence with whoever had the habit of shipping people to gulags in Siberia.

Oh thanks, that narrows it down

That just leaves every Communist leader in the 20th century on the list

[Serb]

Originally posted by Lonestar


You don't know that much about American Media, do you?
B!tching about the way our leaders run things is the national sport.

Glad that we are not alone in such things. May be we should create a league of government bashers, we could have a World championships or even have a chance to make this an Olympic sport?
But I just want to said that you are not gonna loose your new wars because of war weariness like Vietnam, that’s what I’ve mean when talk about lessons.

Don't think the American people are going to need the media to get angry. In fact, our illustrious leaders should be worried that the American People don't lynch them from the nearest streetlight .....

Good idea!!! Do it now!!!

[Chris 62]

Originally posted by Serb

As for me, I think I'm losing on personal insults account on this thread to Chris62. Serb, stop being an Ass..... Your rapidly moving to my stupid son of a b1tch catigory. But nothing is lost. I’m worked on it, perhaps I’ll respond to him in the same way later. Is Mingapulco a cool place?

Try calling me a liar again and see how really nasty I can be.

Your still a bumb-assed newbie here, so i cut you some slack, slack is now gone.

Because YOU never heard of it doesn't make things not happen.

We can fill volumes of books on things YOU don't know about.

I tried to treat you like anyone else, but you insulted me, then my intelligence, as if i wouldn't know the difference between an officer and a cadet.

You are a child, arguing with men, if you wish to be treated as an adult, then act like one.

Untill then, you will be treated like the petulant child you have been acting like.

Understand?

Many of the people here have much experience with the world, something you obviously lack.

Sorry to inform you sunshine, but your sources are the wrong ones, and you have been lied to and fooled.

When you start understanding that and doing something about it, then will you discover maturity, which you obviously lack.

[Alexander's Horse]

So much effort attacking a DL

[Chris 62]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
So much effort attacking a DL

I am not a DL

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by Chris 62
I am not a DL

Own goal

I was talking about the other guy you ninny.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Chris 62
About the Zero:
When first encountered, it was unstopable, because of poor allied tactics, not through superior design.
The Model 21 Zero-sen lacked self-sealing fuel tanks, pilot armor, and many had radios removed to increase range (a major tactical error), slow firing 20mm cannons and rifle caliber Mgs.
It could out turn and outclimb any allied fighter, but the era of WWI dogfights were over.
Many underestimate the P-40C and F4F-4 Wildcat, both were faster at dive speed, more stable and robust, had pilot armor and better guns (the US 50cal was one of the finest weapons of all time), in fact, over the western desert in Africa, German pilots reported that P-40Cs could turn inside a BF-109F!

Once allied pilots stoped trying to dogfight, and instead went to high speed passes, Zeros started to take grevious losses.

Geting back to aircraft discussion, I can't believe people are dissing the Zero.

First off, when the allies came up against the Zero, they had nothing that could compete with it. The Zero was faster, more agile and could out climb the Wildcat and the early P-40s.

Allied pilots were initially caught off guard and then had to develop tactics to balance the field, but even then the Zero held an advantage.

A couple of posters have mentioned that the American planes could dive faster. That's true, but that advantage only really applies when escaping. Even then, once the American pilot has escaped, he wouldn't had a chance to regain height on the Zero.

The inability to take on a Zero single-handed, led the Americans to adopt team tactics. The Americans also used hit-and-run tactics, particularly after getting faster aircraft. (And Chris62: while the American tactic was to avoid dogfights, this doesn't mean these air battles did not happen.)

The dominance of the Zero can be seen in the simple fact that Allied pilots had to change their tactics to fight against it. They couldn't take on the zero one-on-one so they developed team tactics. They would avoid fights by diving away. Their only chance was to have superior height at the start of a fight, or to turn head-on and hope that their superior firepower would take down the Zero before they were shot.

The Zero didn't have the same firepower, but it was still deadly, particularly in the hands of a skilled pilot.

At the end of 43, the Wildcat appears and the tide is turned against the Zero, but for two years it was clearly the best fighter in the Pacific and it dominated the skies.

[Alexander's Horse]

I agree with everything you say. The Zero deserves a high place in the pantheon of great fighters.

The main problem was, the Japanese didn't develop it the same way that say the Germans did with the BF109, to keep it competitive.

[Serb]

Try calling me a liar again and see how really nasty I can be.

I’m so scared.
Just tell me. When I call you a liar? I’ve never done so. I’ve just wanted to figure out something about people whom you interviewed. And you, btw, still don’t answer me in which circumstances you interviewed them. I was wonder, because in 1991 SU still existed and by laws it was restricted for Soviet pilots to gave interviews for American reporters, it counts as betrayal. I wonder if by modern laws in our military it is allowed for fighter’s pilots to give interview about Russian planes to foreign reporters. I’m sure that such things restricted in many modern armies. It calls security measures. That’s what I’ve talked about. So, if you want to convince me in something you should tell HOW you gain those interviews.

Because YOU never heard of it doesn't make things not happen.

Of course, this is correct but this is may be applied to you as well.

We can fill volumes of books on things YOU don't know about.

The same I can do also. It is impossible to know everything.

I tried to treat you like anyone else, but you insulted me, then my intelligence, as if i wouldn't know the difference between an officer and a cadet.

Let’s see, you’ve started it with words- Serb, stop being an Ass. Again, I didn’t insult you, I’ve just wanted to find out more about people you interviewed and I was chill during our debate. It is you who constantly insulted me with different rude words.

You are a child, arguing with men, if you wish to be treated as an adult, then act like one.
Untill then, you will be treated like the petulant child you have been acting like.

Well, if you are 40 year old, as I think, then yes you may call me a child I’m 15 years younger then you are. If you are 40 you have right for this if no, then how old are you then? Btw, I don’t really care how you treat me.

Understand?

Sir, Yes, Sir!!!

Sorry to inform you sunshine, but your sources are the wrong ones, and you have been lied to and fooled.

Of course, only your sources are true, the others are lie.

When you start understanding that and doing something about it, then will you discover maturity, which you obviously lack.

You think that you acted like an adult? I’ve heard only personal insults from you and nothing more, you acting like child more than I.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse


Own goal

I was talking about the other guy you ninny.

About me, I suggest?
I have to upset you, I am not a DL, and never was one, even my nickname based on my real name. And I do not understand people who create double logins.

[Alexander's Horse]

We interrupt this interesting thread for further slagging in the Serb/Chris sand pit fight. Do not adjust your sets.