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  • #106
    Originally posted by St Leo
    Originally posted by DanS
    Any ideas, wise guy?


    Try bailing and washing your hands of the situation. If there are going to be death squads, let it be so, but don't ****ing train them.
    Why should they bail, and why should they have to ignore the nature of the enemy they face?

    Unarmed Bobbies and asking politely don't work in all situations.
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    • #107
      Originally posted by Oncle Boris


      Wow, you are justifying just about every communist revolution and most national liberation movements. What has happened to you?
      Why not? Che does.
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      • #108
        Originally posted by notyoueither


        When was the last time you qued up for a job and wondered if the minivan pulling up was loaded with explosives about to be set off by the driver?

        You seriously think you have a clue what the average Iraqi is going through and that the situation in the average American city or town holds a candle to what is goin on in Baghdad?

        There may be situtations where normal rules don't apply. I think the rules started going out the window about the time the first person was being beheaded 'Live, on AJ TV!'.
        Which is fine, until the word sympathizers gets added in.

        As we have seen in Abu Gharib, definitions that are not clearly defined AND enforced are stretched beyond their original intents.
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        • #109
          Originally posted by notyoueither


          Why not? Che does.
          See the sig.
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          • #110
            Originally posted by Ted Striker
            I'm glad we didn't invade your country.
            We would have kicked your ass, again.
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            • #111
              Originally posted by notyoueither
              We would have kicked your ass, again.
              Bomb us with Sea Kings?
              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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              • #112
                WMD.


                I was asking Dan his justification for the Iraq war. But that's not the reason - the White House isn't quite that retarded.
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                • #113
                  There were a number of reasons we invaded. I have my favorites among the reasons. I don't think we need to rehash them here. But if you want to take the time to delineate them, making sure not to artificially exclude any of the reasons, then be my guest.
                  I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                  • #114
                    Originally posted by Ted Striker


                    Which is fine, until the word sympathizers gets added in.

                    As we have seen in Abu Gharib, definitions that are not clearly defined AND enforced are stretched beyond their original intents.
                    Attacking the basis of support has been a method of warfare since the mid 19th century. In fact, it was a Yank named Sherman who pioneered it, I think.

                    A civil war is nastier in degree than any other type of war. The winner will be the one willing to do what is necessary in the most effective degree.
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                    • #115
                      Originally posted by notyoueither


                      We would have kicked your ass, again.
                      That was the British Empire, not you.


                      Bootstrapping doesn't count.
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                      • #116
                        Originally posted by DinoDoc
                        Bomb us with Sea Kings?
                        Naw, changing the road signs to direct you all to Churchill and letting the polar bears have you would most likely work.
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                        • #117
                          There were a number of reasons we invaded. I have my favorites among the reasons. I don't think we need to rehash them here. But if you want to take the time to delineate them, making sure not to artificially exclude any of the reasons, then be my guest.


                          I'm asking you how you justify the invasion. I know you like making nebulous insinuations so you can weasel out of anything, but it would be nice if you could establish your position. Nothing in depth, a couple sentence summary would do.
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                          • #118
                            I too am amazed at the amorality of those who can justify such actions on the basis that if might not affect US "popularity". Is there no action that is intrinsicaly wrong in their book?

                            Moreover, I suspect that the few who attempt to justify this policy have been staunch opponents of terrorism (as in 9-11) in the past. But what is this, if not terrorism? And if terrorism is bad ONLY when used by your enemy against you, but it's OK if you use it against your enemy, where does that leave them? What do they really stand for? I think they don't really know.
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                            • #119
                              Originally posted by Ramo
                              WMD.

                              But that's not the reason - the White House isn't quite that retarded.
                              That was the reason for the invasion. I don't really care for whatever it morphed into afterwards but that is the reason troops were initially sent.
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                              • #120
                                Originally posted by Ted Striker


                                That was the British Empire, not you.


                                Bootstrapping doesn't count.
                                Are you kidding? The founders of Ontario as a colony began there as bases to burn revolutionary townships down.

                                Our history of firing Yankee homesteads goes way back.
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