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Originally posted by Ramo
3. If you want to see how some of the undecideds are moving, check this out:
3. If you want to see how some of the undecideds are moving, check this out:
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The one with the Kerry/Edwards ad centered about eye level?
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Originally posted by Oerdin
*Cough* *Cough* Some of us think we'll see a 20 electoral college vote lead for Kerry followed by endless law suites filed by the Republicans as they attempt to change the results.
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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In a letter, Berkeley County clerk John Smalls cites calls from a cell phone were made to Eastern Panhandle democrats telling them that they were not registered to vote. The letter also said the calls informed democrats in some cases they wouldn`t be able to vote on Election Day [...]
It`s considered an improper act because when upset citizens called the voter registration office to make sure they were registered to vote, indeed they were. So, who made these misleading calls? The Berkeley County Clerk`s Office traced the number voters gave as the source back to the Eastern Panhandle Republican Headquarters.
This is coming from the official Republican Party Headquarters for the state?! Jesus, don't these guys have any sham what so ever?Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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The one with the Kerry/Edwards ad centered about eye level?
You can verify that they're listing the polls correctly by clicking on the links on top.
It's interesting that you referred to RCP earlier, which is a Republican site.Last edited by Ramo; October 31, 2004, 23:09."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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For me voting comes down to trust. Even if we don't include the whoppers Bush told about Iraq then we still have the daily lies Bush is telling during the campaign plus we have the lies told back in 2000 about Fede4ral energy and enviromental policy. How can anyone trust anything Bush says? I can't vote for a man like that.
Then I have a personal grievence in the form of 2001's energy crisis in California. It was clear to everyone who looked that Enron was working the system and when the state of California asked Bush's head of the Federal Utility Commission to stop Enron's illegal activity we got told off. The govornor was told that California votes Democratic and to go ask Democrates for help because Bush's guys wouldn't do it.
What ever happened to stopping illegal activity because it was their job? I can only guess that Enron's massive payments to the Bush Campaign in 2000 also influenced the way Bush and his boy's saw things. Either way the people of California got royalely screwed by Enron and Bush refused to lift a finger to enforce the law.
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One more thing to consider. Who is the taller candidate. I haven't verified this, but I heard the taller candidate has won almost every single election we've ever had.
And I do believe Kerry is taller. And the Redskins lost. What more proof do you need?Comment
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Kerry is like 6'4" and Bush is like 5'10" to 6'.We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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Sadly, that's about how I feel. I suspect Bush will win, because he'll pull out in Florida (they always forget the huge military vote, like in 2000, that was nearly taken away from him by Gore's equally icky legalistic shenanigans) and in Ohio, which is enough to give him the victory.Originally posted by Tuberski
Doesn't matter who wins the election. The American people are going to be the losers......
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However, neither of them are good candidates ... and that's coming from a conservative federalist
(of course, the fact that the second word in that description no longer has any meaning in the US is most of why ... sigh.)<Reverend> IRC is just multiplayer notepad.
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Oh, Kerry is gonna win, the Redskins lost today.
The incumbent always loses when the Redskins lose the Sunday before.
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Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!Comment
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You can't get beat by 5 points. You get beat by electoral college votes; even if Kerry won the % 52.5-47.5 (5 points), he could still easily lose.Originally posted by Ted Striker
The Washington Redskins game that is played before the election, is a good predictor of who will win the election.
If Washington wins, the President wins the election. If Washington loses, the President loses the election.
Today the Green Bay Packers OWNED the Redskins.
By that statistic, Bush will lose.
I don't think things are going to be as close as people think. I think Bush is going to get beat by at least 5 points.
And before I get barraged into "Bah, that shows how screwed up this is", I'll put in my two cents for why that's just fine by me. We started out as a federation - not a unified state- and that's why we have an electoral college. Each state should have some meaningful say in who is President, not just three or four states (California, Texas, New York could pretty much decide the election %-wise, if they voted in blocks). States like New Mexico (5 electoral votes, but only 3 million population) and Wyoming (3 votes, less than 1 million population) should have some say in who leads them, and not get 'bullied' by large states with huge populations. That's where we come from as a nation, and it's how it should be: A federalist system which gives certain rights and duties to the federal government (note the name?
) that are necessary to be accomplished by a central entity, but with most duties performed by the individual states.
Ok, enough ranting.
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And increasing my post count even more on this thread ...Originally posted by Tuberski
Oh, Kerry is gonna win, the Redskins lost today.
The incumbent always loses when the Redskins lose the Sunday before.
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When they lose the previous Home Game. Not the sunday before (could be a monday) necessarily, and not away games.
But otherwise technically accurate. (Well, cut it off at 1937 as well; I believe they lost in 1936 and FDR still won his second term.)<Reverend> IRC is just multiplayer notepad.
I like your SNOOPY POSTER! - While you Wait quote.Comment
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Originally posted by snoopy369
You can't get beat by 5 points.
Yeah you can. Stop smoking.We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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You know what I meant, Besides I got the important part right, they lost TODAY.Originally posted by snoopy369
And increasing my post count even more on this thread ...
When they lose the previous Home Game. Not the sunday before (could be a monday) necessarily, and not away games.
But otherwise technically accurate. (Well, cut it off at 1937 as well; I believe they lost in 1936 and FDR still won his second term.)
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Man, 77/77. Has the race in this thread been this tight all of the time?This is Shireroth, and Giant Squid will brutally murder me if I ever remove this link from my signature | In the end it won't be love that saves us, it will be mathematics | So many people have this concept of God the Avenger. I see God as the ultimate sense of humor -- SlowwHandComment
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But otherwise technically accurate. (Well, cut it off at 1937 as well; I believe they lost in 1936 and FDR still won his second term.)
But in 1936 they were the Boston Redskins (they moved after that year)... so that doesn't count.
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