Tweet
Another case for a tie
according to latimes.com
according to latimes.com
Attached Files
-
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
George Orwell -
What's with Hawaii btw?? Isn't that traditionally democratic?Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God? - EpicurusComment
-
You can exchange Hawaii with New Hampshire, it's the same."In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
George OrwellComment
-
Polls run from around 7:00 am (12:00 GMT, 13:00 GMT, 14:00 GMT, 15:00 GMT in each of the 4 time zones) to 9:00 pm (Wednesday 2:00 GMT, 3:00 GMT, 4:00 GMT, 5:00 GMT, in each of the 4 times zones).May I ask when is the election going to start and end and when are the exit polls going to be publicised? Give your answers in GMT please.
Now it's Monday, 1/10, 14:40 GMT
As polls close, they report actual results. The action will be around 3:00 GMT Wednesday, because that's when Ohio and Pennsylvania report their numbers (Florida's come an hour later, since a small portion of the state is GMT -6). The press will not likely call the race until well into the evening, even based on exit polling.
In the extremely unlikely event that Hawaii is the deciding state, we will have a long night. Hawaii polls probably close around 7:00 GMT Wednesday, so you will start getting actuals from Hawaii around 8:00 GMT Wednesday.
Exit polling may be released by Drudge about 2 or 3 pm Tuesday (19:00 or 20:00 GMT), if somebody leaks the numbers.Last edited by DanS; November 1, 2004, 20:31.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
-
So if Ohio and Pennsylvania make a president, Hawaiian late voters will know about it and won't be arsed to show up to vote? Stupid system. Results should be kept secret until polls in Hawaii close."In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
George OrwellComment
-
If each state wanted to do that, they could. Actually, if each state wanted to flip a coin to see who won the state's electors, they could do that as well.
In any event, consider that most areas will have 20 to 30 other offices or initiatives on the ballot. There's plenty of reason for Hawaiians to vote, even if they know the outcome of the presidential election before voting.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
-
There has been some talk of rogue electoral college members who won't vote for Bush even if their state does.Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
Look, I just don't anymore, okay?Comment
-
Zogby's last Electoral Map projection. Look familiar?
Attached FilesTutto nel mondo è burlaComment
-
-
Higly unlikely since they're members of the Republican Party. Each candidate has their own electors.Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
There has been some talk of rogue electoral college members who won't vote for Bush even if their state does."What did you learn in school today, dear little boy of mine?
I learned our government must be strong. It's always right and never wrong,.....that's what I learned in school."
--- Tom Paxton song ('63)Comment
-
Further, if Bush is winning in the electoral college and there are one or more faithless electors who goes neutral, then Bush would win via the congress.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
-
The polls in Hawaii close at the same time as on the West Coast, that is 11 PM Eastern. If you must worry, it should be about Alaska, where polls are open till 1 AM Eastern.Originally posted by axi
So if Ohio and Pennsylvania make a president, Hawaiian late voters will know about it and won't be arsed to show up to vote? Stupid system. Results should be kept secret until polls in Hawaii close.
But then Alaska is hardly a swing state.
Comment
-
But what if a faithless elector swings it one way? I imagine that will go to the courts.Originally posted by DanS
Further, if Bush is winning in the electoral college and there are one or more faithless electors who goes neutral, then Bush would win via the congress.Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..
Look, I just don't anymore, okay?Comment
-
No, it wouldn't go to the courts. If one candidate has a majority of electoral votes, he wins. If no one gets a majority, the Presidency goes to the House, where they decide among the top three, and the Veep is selected by the Senate (which could lead to strange situations like a Shrub/Kerry Admin).Last edited by Ramo; November 2, 2004, 00:20."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
-BokononComment
-
Higly unlikely since they're members of the Republican Party. Each candidate has their own electors.
It still happens reasonably often. The DC elector, for instance, abstained from voting for Gore."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
-BokononComment
-
But, nothing was on the line. That one EV wouldn't have cost Gore the election. It's easy to abstain in such situations.Originally posted by Ramo
Higly unlikely since they're members of the Republican Party. Each candidate has their own electors.
It still happens reasonably often. The DC elector, for instance, abstained from voting for Gore."What did you learn in school today, dear little boy of mine?
I learned our government must be strong. It's always right and never wrong,.....that's what I learned in school."
--- Tom Paxton song ('63)Comment
Comment