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  • #76
    Good job Boshko

    I am continually amazed that the best analysis of this whole debacle continues to be on a fake news show like the Daily Show- shows how sad and pathetic the news channels have become.
    If you don't like reality, change it! me
    "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
    "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
    "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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    • #77
      From the NYTimes:

      "But on a day when Republicans and Democrats used Dr. Allawi to reinforce starkly opposed campaign messages about Iraq, Mr. Bush and his ally presented, over all, a rosy picture of the country. In contrast, Senator John Kerry, the Democratic presidential nominee, seized on the visit to paint a bleak portrait of Iraq and a Bush administration in disarray.

      By the end of the day, it was clear that Dr. Allawi's visit to Washington, his first as Iraq's interim prime minister, was not simply a trip by a head of government but a politically charged moment in the presidential campaign.

      "I stand here today as the prime minister of a country emerging finally from dark ages of violence, aggression, corruption and greed," Dr. Allawi told a joint meeting of Congress before his appearance at the White House, using language that echoed Mr. Bush's campaign speeches about Iraq. "Like almost every Iraqi, I have many friends who were murdered, tortured or raped by the regime of Saddam Hussein."

      In the Rose Garden two hours later, Dr. Allawi and Mr. Bush continually cited progress in a nation that has been plagued by an emboldened insurgency, suicide bombings and the recent beheadings of two American hostages.

      "You can understand it's tough and still be optimistic," Mr. Bush said. "You can understand how hard it is and believe we'll succeed."

      Dr. Allawi, a former neurologist with close ties to the Central Intelligence Agency, was selected as interim prime minister in May by a United Nations envoy under heavy pressure from the United States. He said in the Rose Garden that he received a threat on his life every day and that in the last month he had learned of four conspiracies to kill him.

      Mr. Bush, in his enthusiasm to portray what he called progress in Iraq, went so far as to say that polls there asking people whether the country was on the right track showed more positive results than similar opinion polls in the United States.

      "I saw a poll that said the right track/wrong track in Iraq was better than here in America," Mr. Bush said, chuckling. "It's pretty darn strong. I mean, the people see a better future."

      A Kerry campaign spokesman, Joe Lockhart, responded that Mr. Bush must be "unhinged from reality" to cite such a poll.

      Mr. Kerry, at a news conference in Columbus, Ohio, said Dr. Allawi was not making sense, pointing in particular to his assertion to Congress that the terrorists in Iraq were on the defensive.

      "I think the prime minister is, obviously, contradicting his own statement of a few days ago where he said the terrorists are pouring into the country," Mr. Kerry said. "The prime minister and the president are here, obviously, to put their best face on the policy. But the fact is that the C.I.A. estimates, the reporting, the ground operations and the troops all tell a different story."

      Mr. Bush in turn used his 47-minute appearance with Dr. Allawi to implicitly criticize what his campaign has called Mr. Kerry's many flip-flops on Iraq, although the president did not use Mr. Kerry's name. The president said people who sent a "mixed signal" on Iraq could embolden terrorists.

      "I think it's very important for the American president to mean what he says," Mr. Bush said. "That's why I understand that the enemy could misread what I say." He added: "I don't want them to be emboldened by any confusion or doubt. I don't want them to think that, well, maybe all they got to do is attack and we'll shirk our duty."

      The bottom line, even the NYTimes noted the trashing of Allawi's "optimistic views" by the gloom and doom Demoncrat candiated. Allawi has become a political football, obviously siding with Bush according to Kerry is his unmerry crew.
      http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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      • #78
        Bush isn't a stooge he's an "enemy combatant!"
        We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Drake Tungsten


          On-topic, Karl Rove must be creaming his jeans over this statement by Kerry. Kerry had already hurt his chances bad enough by flip-flopping on the Iraq war for the past couple years, but now he's gone and adopted the Howard Dean stance on the war just in time to destroy his support amongst centrists before the election. Rove couldn't have done any better if he was controlling Kerry's campaign himself. Unbelievable...
          Yeah right, he is attacking Bush on Iraq and that's what is going to get him elected. Bush banked his reelection on Iraq and has failed miserably.

          Interstingly enough, on the CNN.com web poll I just clicked on showed that 55% of respondants said Kerry had a better plan for fixing Iraq.

          I just can't believe you guys still support this lunatic.
          We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Joseph
            What if both Kerry and Allawi win their Election. How will they get along then?
            Then Allawi will be Kerry's *****, since he knows his future depends on keeping the American president happy.
            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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            • #81
              Of course you can have nationwide elections while leaving some areas out. Areas in active rebelion don't count.
              No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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              • #82
                It looks like the Bush campaign agrees that Kerry crossed the line by attacking Allawi. Both scolded Kerry for his attack in separate speaches today.

                "This brave man came to our country to talk about how he's risking his life for a free Iraq, which helps America, and Senator Kerry held a press conference and questioned Prime Minister Allawi's credibility," said Bush.

                http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                • #83
                  The brave man volunteered to serve his country and earned 3 Purple Hearts and Bush isn't man enough to call him a coward, he has his 3rd party attack dogs do it for him.
                  We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Ted Striker
                    Interstingly enough, on the CNN.com web poll I just clicked on showed that 55% of respondants said Kerry had a better plan for fixing Iraq.


                    Erhmm...



                    Clearing my throat again...



                    You rely on a poll that has NO sample? NONE TO SPEAK OF?

                    According to polls with real samples, 55% approve of Bush's plan.
                    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Ted Striker
                      The brave man volunteered to serve his country and earned 3 Purple Hearts and Bush isn't man enough to call him a coward, he has his 3rd party attack dogs do it for him.
                      My uncle served 24 months in Iraq leading something like 200 men, while Kerry did his ****ty four months. My uncle was a leader of a platoon. Kerry was on a stupid swift boat and got his stupid purple hearts (which were handed out like rations) from self inflicted wounds. Kerry is a two faced moron whose record means ****.
                      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Giancarlo




                        Erhmm...



                        Clearing my throat again...



                        You rely on a poll that has NO sample? NONE TO SPEAK OF?

                        According to polls with real samples, 55% approve of Bush's plan.

                        Coming from the guy that posts links from GOP sites.
                        We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Ted Striker



                          Coming from the guy that posts links from GOP sites.
                          Coming from the guy who preaches communism.
                          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Giancarlo


                            My uncle served 24 months in Iraq leading something like 200 men, while Kerry did his ****ty four months. My uncle was a leader of a platoon. Kerry was on a stupid swift boat and got his stupid purple hearts (which were handed out like rations) from self inflicted wounds. Kerry is a two faced moron whose record means ****.
                            I think you are stupid and your Uncle's record means ****.

                            Self inflicted wounds.
                            We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Giancarlo


                              Coming from the guy who preaches communism.


                              You still have absolutley no idea who you are talking to.
                              We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Ted Striker


                                I think you are stupid and your Uncle's record means ****.

                                Self inflicted wounds.
                                Lay off the personal attacks. My uncle's record meant something. He impacted the war. He led a platoon of men who won battles, and took moderate/heavy casualities.

                                I have no idea who I'm talking to? Are you the guy who works with the trash collecting company that picks up trash at my apartment?
                                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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