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  • #31
    Kerry is a f--king moron who doesn't know what he is talking about. He should get a foot up his ass. I'm sorry but that kind of behavior is just unacceptable. It is not only sad, it is anti-Iraqi and is pro-suicide bomber. It borders on treason.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • #32
      If you don't like reality, change it! me
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      • #33
        There's a ringing endorsement of the validity of Kerry's position.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
          There's a ringing endorsement of the validity of Kerry's position.
          What ****ing validity?
          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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          • #35
            There you go again, Fezzy-poo.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by GePap


              The difference is that Kerry's statements have a basis more grounded in that nasty thing called reality.
              If our press talk about reality here in the US, the rest of the world would never come here. You are in NY city Gov., so how many killing last night, rape?, stealing car? and so fore.
              The press should talk about both the good and the bad and just not the bad.

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              • #37
                Great speech by Kerry. We surely don't want him as Commander in Chief, so miscalculations like this are surely a welcome sight.
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                • #38
                  What if both Kerry and Allawi win their Election. How will they get along then?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Joseph
                    If our press talk about reality here in the US, the rest of the world would never come here. You are in NY city Gov., so how many killing last night, rape?, stealing car? and so fore.
                    The press should talk about both the good and the bad and just not the bad.
                    NYC has 8 million people- last year, in the entire year, there were 650 murders. At its worst, in 1991, there were about 2100 murders, and less people.

                    Nothing even compares to what is going on in Iraq, becuase notice, regular lawlessness isn;t reported here in the news, just significant acts of violence like bombings, assasinations, and kidnappings of non-Iraqis.

                    The good in Iraq is the sort of stuff that never makes it inot the news, like the opening of a school. But guess whatm the press is the same everywhere! Do you think your average Iraqi looks at the newspaper and reads only oil figures and electricity figuresa (not that great anyways) and about new community centers? Or do they, like you, open the paper to sensetionalists headlines and a bucnh of pictures of the latest violence?

                    There is not only an insurgency, but higher levels of crime, and people in Iraq are like people in the US (ditto press), one murder resonates more then a dozen schools opening, cause you might get killed at any moment, while a school opening 20 miles away is sort of meaningless.
                    If you don't like reality, change it! me
                    "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                    "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                    "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by GePap

                      The difference is that Kerry's statements have a basis more grounded in that nasty thing called reality.


                      Anyone that is expecting anything else probably should be on drugs.
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                      • #41
                        Nice spin Ned.

                        I want to see the part where he says, "Allawi is a liar."
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                        • #42
                          Saying that everything Allawi said was false is effectively calling him a liar, Ted...
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                          • #43
                            Incidentally, Sistani is worried that Allawi's gonna hijack/delay the upcoming elections, and is threatening to withdraw his support.

                            BAGHDAD, Iraq, Sept. 22 - Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Husseini al-Sistani, the nation's most powerful Shiite leader, is growing increasingly concerned that nationwide elections could be delayed, his aides said, and has even threatened to withdraw his support for the elections unless changes are made to increase the representation of Shiites, according to one Iraqi source close to him.

                            [...]

                            According to people with knowledge of the talks, Ayatollah Sistani is concerned that the nascent democratic process here is falling under the control of a handful of the largest political parties, which cooperated with the American occupation and are comprised largely of exiles.

                            In particular, these sources say, Ayatollah Sistani is worried about discussions now under way among those parties to form a single ticket for the elections, thus limiting the choices of voters and smothering smaller political parties.

                            Ayatollah Sistani, who earlier this year sent tens of thousands of Iraqis into the streets to demand early elections, is said to be worried that a "consensus list" of candidates from the larger political parties would artificially limit the power of the Shiites, who form a majority in the country.


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                            • #44
                              NO! Allawi said the elections wil go as planned.

                              NYTIMES = liberal garbage
                              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                              • #45
                                Yes, NYT and Sistani should be thrown out of the helicopter, the criminals.
                                "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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